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[–] [email protected] 106 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Muskyness aside; it is pretty impressive to watch, almost looks like the footage has been reversed.

Audio is really annoying.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

lol, how is the audio annoying? Those are literally the engineers who worked on this, one of the most difficult engineering problems in human history, having nailed it on their first try.

If you want pure rocket audio, look into cosmic perspective after a few weeks.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The first time they tried to catch with the chopsticks, it workes without blowing up the whole launchpad.

When they did this with the Falcon 9, it took several flights to get a landing without significant damage to the drone ship, the booster, or both.

Pretty impressive that they got it to work right out of the gate with the Super Heavy Booster

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

It also proves the importance of progressive integration tests even if they’re destructive. The amount you can learn by actually putting everything together is just fundamentally necessary to make sure these complex systems work.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Well, this time around, even though a different mechanism was used, they had all the Falcon experience to draw from, which shortens development.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Never been attempted before.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

You know when you try, and try and try and try and fail every time...

But then you scratch your left tit and try again and you finally make it?

You made it first try after scratching your tit!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

one of the most difficult engineering problems in human history

This made me laugh.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What would you qualify? My mind goes to fusion, and the moon landings. And this is quite a bit more complicated than Apollo. (Though we have better tools nowadays)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And this is quite a bit more complicated than Apollo

Oh my god

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Starship is aiming to have the same payload capacity while being fully reusable. Seems like adding that constraint makes it harder.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sure, now do it with only paper and protractors.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's why I said we have better tools nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Makes it easier, doesn’t it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Would you call the pyramids the most difficult engineering problems in human history? They had a whole lot worse tools. I wasn't taking into account how much easier the tools make it, just the complexity of the challenge.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean. They were pretty challenging, I would expect.

It's just that Apollo dealt directly with rockets and boosters and so on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's just that Apollo dealt directly with rockets and boosters and so on.

What do you mean? Starship does too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It was about "Those are literally the engineers who worked on this, one of the most difficult engineering problems in human history, having nailed it on their first try."

And how the tools, materials, processes, and organizational structures to deal with those complexities do in fact make it easier than say the original Apollo missions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Easier for the individual people, but not an easier engineering challenge. 150T to LEO reusability is a harder problem statement 150T to LEO single use.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fair, but is it one of the most difficult in human history?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

More difficult than Saturn V, and that's one of the most difficult.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

Musk just owns the company, which sucks. There are clearly a lot of very talented people there who do actually work while Musk is in his K-hole.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well no dispite musk since he's well publicized to be a hinderence aide from the money he provides.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Could you link a source? I just want to believe this; I've never actually seen evidence of it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Muskyness aside;

Out of morbid curiosity I went into the comment section for some insta posts about this. It's just full of worship for Musk, and complete disregard for the actual engineers & Shotwell.

This thread has been far more pleasant.