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Why are people surprised by this? Do you guys not have refrigerators in your grocery stores?
Raw milk gets bad after about 3-4 days, even with constant cooling. This period is way to short to sell it at grocerie stores in any big scale.
Are you american?
Bo and it is in no way relevant. Since it seems like you think that what I say is wrong, I know this, because I came from a farm.
I know what you mean but this amuses me immensely.
It is relevant. The quality of the food chain and regulations where you live play a huge role in that particular society's feel about raw products.
You'd be surprised to find that in some countries people eat raw ground pork as a normal thing and nobody dies.
I'd like to know which farm you worked in because the fact you think so poorly about the food that comes out of it means I absolutely need to avoid anything you guys make.
OK, you got a point there.
For the other part, you can trust me, that in a refrigerator milk will get bad after 3-4 days. If you cool it at about 2-3°C it is good for longer time(obviously), but I can't tell how long exactly, because the milk never gets that old. As for Quality its quite interesting, that you make assumptions about it without knowing anything. I can assure you, that the milk has good quality. It gets tested every 2 days in terms of fat, germs, protein, and SCC and all of those parameters are always good.
And meat goes bad in the fridge after only a few more days but I don't see you having a meltdown over butcher shops existing.
In reality people consume raw milk all the time, it's just some countries with absolutely garbage consumer protections where you should avoid drinking it.
Meat lasts longer than that. I buy vacuum packed whole prime cuts of meat for about 10 to 12 days, that tastes as good on day 12 (out of vac pack for 2 days) as it did on day 1
Do you go to the store to buy meat every meal?
Like do you only purchase a single serving of meat every time?
Wtf you guys smoking lmao?
You guys are trying so hard to be right you don't even realize just how dumb it makes you look.
When I get milk I get a few cartons of UHT milk and then one bottle or two of raw milk that I drink first because I'm not a fucking idiot.
I mean, I buy meat a couple pounds at a time, and cook it all at once. The leftovers usually get me most of the way through the week, because I'm usually just cooking for myself. A half gallon of the ultra pasteurized milk will usually last me three or four weeks. Raw milk would be absolutely wasted on me, there's no way I could get through even a small amount before it spoils. I don't know why you're getting so bent out of shape by a take that essentially boils down to "people go through meat faster than milk", it's not exactly a hot take.
NO NO NO raw milk bad! Alternative ideas bad! New evidence bad! Bad things bad!
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You see, in America, the milk cattle live in terrible conditions. Mastitis is common. In the US, you really have to pasteurize the milk to kill all the bacteria and viruses that end up in the milk because of the conditions they live in.
I can't say anything about the general health and living conditions of the US cattle, but taking your word for granted its devinetively advised. If the cows are kept under good conditions and a good hygiene is practised usually germs in raw milk aren't that much of a problem.
There is a video I will not point you to, because a hundred vegans probably have already, that show how sad and disgusting factory farming in the US is. I wouldn't drink anything that came out of one of those depressing animal factories unless it had been processed to hell and back.
There are better options on the market, but the average American is going to pay a buck or two less for a gallon from the milk factory. Same thing with eggs, meat.
Conscious food choices are a luxury, here.
They're forced to stand in their own squalor without stalls being mucked out. It's cruel and disgusting.
We do, but we also have pasteurization.
It's like saying 'yes we have foie gras but we also have store brand meat product.'
Mmm gourmet bacteria and viruses.
Oh no, germs. You should go ahead and inject yourself with UV bleach.
You should go ahead and inject yourself with e. coli.
If they're not from the USA they're just sparkling pathogens.
Okay, whether or not raw milk is generally safe, why buy it when there's an alternative that removes the pathogens?
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These people voted for trump. Critical thinking isn't in their repertoire.
Because raw milk contains everything, including all the fat and all the vitamins.
Processed milk usually is first separated between fat and liquid and then the fat is readded. Also the pasteurization destroys some of the vitamins.
More importantly though it just tastes different.
Finally if you want to make yogurt or cream cheese, you want to work of raw milk because it contains the fermenting bacteria, but that is more of a niche application.
Pasteurization by default does not remove all bacteria and probably also not all viruses. The milk you commonly find in supermarkets these days is not only pasteurized at high temperature, but also homogenized (pressed through a microsieve), which further alters the taste, reduces quality but extends the shelf life.
If you're going to make anything from milk that requires bacterial cultures and the conditions under which they will grow, you absolutely do not want whatever random cultures that are in a raw product. You start clean and add the cultures you want to propagate. Source: ferments things at home
Why are you getting your vitamins from milk?
Most people get their vitamins from their food, not from dietary supplements.
Last I checked, food other than milk exists.