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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

To be clear, universal healthcare is slowly failing in the UK

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It really isn't. It was being undermined by political powers who wanted to line their own pockets with a private system.

The Tory playbook is to underfund and sabotage public interest so they can claim it doesn't work without private ownership.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

You just aggressively agreed with my statement while stating you disagreed at the beginning.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, your statement was indicating that universal healthcare was failing. It isn't and has been successful in the UK for over 70 years.

When you say universal healthcare in the UK is failing with no additional context you are using the conservative rhetoric, which is damaging.

It's like if you failed an exam because your class funding was cut to only give teachers half as much time to teach, then you claimed that education doesn't work.

If we agree with each other on the broader points, then that's great.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's like if you failed an exam because your class funding was cut to only give teachers half as much time to teach, then you claimed that education doesn't work.

No it's like claiming state funded education system is failing, not education doesnt work as a whole, your reply is ambiguous and could be understood as the latter. Healthcare categorically works and no-one can deny that.

Healthcare in UK has consistently been defunded year on year, it is failing slowly due to the population increase, increase testing and diagnosis along with population density issues in cities during this reduction of budgets. A measurable consequence of these factors are increased refferal wait times and suicides for healthcare professionals, both at their highest levels. This can be solved with money and good management.

I still dont understand how you can't see we are aggressively agreeing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

saying somethins is being sabotaged isnt the same as saying it is failing. The sabotage must be successful for it to fail.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

we'll see what Starmer does. So far his gestures have sounded promising, but you never know

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

By design of the ruling parties, not because universal healthcare is impossible

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

One could argue ruling parties reducing funding for universal healthcare (reduction of giving to the poor) is inevitable.

#lateStageCapitalism

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Because conservatives are deliberately sabotaging it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And healthcare is an utter disaster in the US, your argument holds zero merit