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[–] [email protected] 73 points 3 months ago (2 children)

USA:

  • Has most powerful military in the world

Also:

  • Can't prevent kids from getting mass murdered in school, and making it worse, it happens every week

😓

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

There was also just one in Wisconsin a day or two ago...

https://apnews.com/live/madison-wisconsin-school-shooting-updates

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Well, at least half the oath of allegiance is...yeah.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

The US is barely a developed nation. The Economist reclassified the US as a flawed democracy in 2022. There were also proposals by members of the UNCTAD to reclassify the US as a developing nation in 2023, a classification formerly known as third world. The proposals were unsupported by the World Bank.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/09/15/us-is-becoming-a-developing-country-on-global-rankings-that-measure-democracy-inequality/

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I don't remember where I heard this, but someone a while back called America a "third-world country but with Walmarts." And while the "third-world" moniker is a bit dated and problematic, I think the rest fits pretty well.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

The US is like the Two-Face or Jekyll/Hyde of developed nations. It’s more like a developing nation with islands of modernity AND Walmarts.

We have all this money, military, cultural influence, universities, businesses, and so many other by-the-numbers indicators of a modern society. But we don’t have the quality of life, and we just elected Donald Trump in goddamn 2024. Decisively so. Fuck.

[–] RedditRefugee69 6 points 3 months ago

True, the part about us having Wal-Marts is accurate. We do have those.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That was before Trump won. I think the category moved from developing to post-apocalyptic.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago (2 children)

While Switzerland has universal health care it's just by virtue of mandating everyone to get insurance from a private insurer.

At least there is a basic insurance package called Grundversicherung, which the insurers have to accept you for that has defined coverage. But it doesn't cover luxury bones (teeth) or vision.

Anyway I'm just trying to say choose one of the other 31 to model the US system after.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Lol we ain't changing shit.

This country is an oligarch piggy bank.

Our vote an illusion between sociopath capitalism+ribbons or sociopath capitalism+scapegoats. We don't get a vote on the economy. We don't get a vote to end an industry built on conning people into trusting them and paying them for years and then murdering them. Too profitable. That's why our "leftwing" party declared victory further enshrining that industry into our lives, a heritage foundation plan, to demands by neoliberals we say thank you.

There's only one way Americans would ever get universal healthcare, but we're largely too chickenshit, aside from one freedom fighter that will be made example of. So we'll continue to be treated as livestock, mandated to pay when well, then told to fuck off and die when we become inconvient to the con industry's quarterly profits.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I always wonder with posts like these, what exactly have you tried to do to fix it? We've certainly had primary choices that break the mold of typical spineless corporate Democrats. Did you donate to help save the seats of Jamaal Bowman or Cori Bush? Have you ever done any canvassing? Have you written to your representatives? Do you know the names of your representatives? Have you run for office yourself?

All of us could be doing more and doing it better. The vast majority of citizens haven't done nearly enough to have earned the right to claim that the system just can't get better.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I phone banked for Sanders on two campaigns. I call and know my reps.

I live in a rare caucus state. I'll never, ever forget the silent scowls of neoliberals as leftists came up and tried to convince them to vote for Sanders, not one of them came up either time. Didn't say a god damned word for their candidate. Just scowled and rolled their eyes wishing they didn't have to sit through people talking.

We won the room once by numbers and lost once, with no one changing their minds either time. Neoliberals just go the fuck along and do as their told without any opinion but tow the party line. Pathetic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Who has single payer that covers teeth and vision? And when I say vision I mean good glasses, not shit lenses.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago

The US has never had a social contract outside of a few things like social security, medicare and medicaid. It's 335 million people lumped together with a good many of them doing everything they can to fuck everyone else over so they get a slightly bigger slice of the pie, unaware of the fact that if everyone worked together and looked out for one another, things would be much better for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Even Russia figured this out.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Don't worry: our greedy politicians are trying to erode it in all 32 other countries too. They want to be rich like HMO CEOs but not live in America, and don't get the paradox.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Imagine if besides the right to bear arms, there were also hospitals for the bears.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

"GUNS AND PEOPLE WHO BREED" ?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

To be clear, universal healthcare is slowly failing in the UK

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It really isn't. It was being undermined by political powers who wanted to line their own pockets with a private system.

The Tory playbook is to underfund and sabotage public interest so they can claim it doesn't work without private ownership.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

You just aggressively agreed with my statement while stating you disagreed at the beginning.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, your statement was indicating that universal healthcare was failing. It isn't and has been successful in the UK for over 70 years.

When you say universal healthcare in the UK is failing with no additional context you are using the conservative rhetoric, which is damaging.

It's like if you failed an exam because your class funding was cut to only give teachers half as much time to teach, then you claimed that education doesn't work.

If we agree with each other on the broader points, then that's great.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

we'll see what Starmer does. So far his gestures have sounded promising, but you never know

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

By design of the ruling parties, not because universal healthcare is impossible

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

One could argue ruling parties reducing funding for universal healthcare (reduction of giving to the poor) is inevitable.

#lateStageCapitalism

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Because conservatives are deliberately sabotaging it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

And healthcare is an utter disaster in the US, your argument holds zero merit

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Just so you know, a majority of Canadians want to either try or adopt the US system

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The majority of Canadians, or the majority if Canadian politicians?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That first link says that most people want the government to pay a lot more... That doesn't really seem like "we want the US system"

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'll gladly swap citizenship with any Canadian! Come and claim your coverage by our wonderful privatized healthcare system! No take backsies

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Idiots are everywhere on this shithole of a planet

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The Canadian system broke due to abuse by some types of immigrants, failure to attract and keep docters and nurses, and the never ending greener pasture to the south that offers doctors a more attractive and better paying lifestyle than Canada

the Canadian system is broken because we have to share a border with America. It wasn't the abject horror until the doctors and nurses quit from the covid days, and we flooded a bunch of bad Immigrants in who had no interest in doing anything but abusing the country for all they could cash out on.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I love that the blame has to be pushed onto immigrants who pay the same taxes we all do. Who receive the same socialised benefits we do.

Rather than blame the government rats that have been siphoning cash away from public infrastructure for decades. Have you taken a look at Doug Ford or Danielle Smith? Have you listened to Pierre Pollievre talk his dogshit plans for privatisation in Canada?

Why come so close to hitting the mark only to blame it on immigrants that only serve to strengthen the system if they too weren't taken advantage of by parliamentary ghouls.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Dude just really don't like George Reed.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Only 33 developed countries exist?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

According to Wikipedia it's 40:

USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Israel, Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Macau, Hong Kong, Taiwan, and big parts of Europe.

Wikipedia - Developed Country

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

you forgot Japan and Israel!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Most of the planet is slave labor.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Three to the power of two? Nine?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

It’s so much easier just to make a few people rich.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

The world's 33 developed nations

Colonialism brain

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Canada has free health care but it doesn't exist anymore lol. Good luck seeing a doctor even when you're dying

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (3 children)

As a Canadian, this is news to me. I just used the free healthcare system a week ago.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

Similar to the other person that replied to you, I have no idea what you're talking about. Some provinces have relatively crappy healthcare (looking at you, Alberta), but these outcomes are directly cause by conservative Premiers cutting funding to the system and policies that restrict immigrant doctors from being licensed with the schooling, experience, and licensing that was received in their country of origin.

Despite all of this, I don't wait grossly long in the emergency room if I have to go, I'm able to get a doctor for prescriptions, and I have clinics I can go to if I need non-critical care. All of it free (excluding medication, dental and some other critical items)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We do have free health care, it works. It's underfunded and understaffed as a result of Conservatives trying to destroy the public services, which gets people expressing dissatisfaction with the service, which allows them to further stripmine the system by funneling public funds to private clinics and the like to 'improve things' when really they should be properly funding our public system and paying more people good wages to work there

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