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[–] [email protected] 78 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Median household income in Manhattan is about 100k. It's not all insanely wealthy people.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (7 children)

I make $11k per year.

$100k IS insanely wealthy.

[–] [email protected] 98 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Dear God man, get ANY other job

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I've had multiple injuries at work (and a few from sports) so am unable to do my former labor-type jobs. I'm also over 65 so retraining is out of the question.

Worked minimum wage positions most of my life so have no savings and currently live in a rooming house.

There's lots of us out here scraping the bottom of the barrel just to survive.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That really sucks, and I'm genuinely sorry you've had to deal with all that. $100K USD can be eaten up very quickly depending on your city's cost of living though. I'd imagine someone making $100k USD in Manhattan would be barely scraping by as well

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago

100K in Manhattan is nothing. My father was a principal earning $150K and still could barely get by in the city.

When apartments run total 40K annually, 100K is just a step above poverty wages.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

11k is like $5.5/h, assuming you’re working full time. It’s well below minimum wage.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

As stated in the comment you responded to I am no longer working because of injuries and age.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are you saying pensions are allowed to go below minimum wage in the U.S.?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like you're vastly outside the norm and your perception may be skewed. You'll just have to take peoples word that $100k/yr in Manhattan is not "insanely wealthy."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah, this is literally an 'OK Boomer' moment. Like, how expensive could it really be to live in Manhattan these days?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

You also didn’t answer the question. Are you just trolling?

[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You have it backwards. 100k in Manhattan is not wealthy, let alone insanely wealthy. 11k is insanely impoverished, even if you live in the middle of nowhere.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I was living with about 10k CAD/y for a few years when I was single and I was mostly fine.

Granted, this was in the 2010s. And of course I wasn't in Manhattan, as you can guess by the currency.

Now, I'm making about 70k CAD with a family (sole provider) and I'm just staying afloat.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In Manhattan, it's enough to get by. It's a working-class salary there.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That's well below the poverty line wages. That's dirt poor in almost any part of the country let alone Manhattan, one of the most expensive cities in the U.S.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago

Frezik was talking about the $100K, not the $11K.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Not really. Poverty line in New York City for two adults/two children is $43,890.

https://robinhood.org/news/annual-poverty-tracker-report-by-robin-hood-and-columbia-finds-nyc-poverty-increased-from-18-percent-to-23-percent-in-2022-a-jump-from-1-5-to-2-million-new-yorkers-living-in-poverty/

Edit: also keep in mind that New Yorkers often don't need a car. That's a huge yearly spending reduction.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

He thinks you mean 11K/year, and you think he means 100k/year. Just trying to help out... :)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Yeah, as the other person pointed out, I was pointing to the 11K per year comment. Maybe a typo?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

NYC or Manhattan?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In the US? That's less than the legal minimum wage

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Not if you don't/can't work full time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Not in NYC, that leaves you with hundreds of dollars a month after rent if you’re lucky.

I made 70-90k in Boston and had nothing left for savings if I dared to eat out once a week.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Not if you live in Manhattan. Housing alone there is stupidly expensive.