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Inb4 lemmy supports Iran

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[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 127 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Supporting either side in this idiotic war over religion is stupid. That said, I don't know what anyone expected Iran to do after Israel bombed their embassy.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can just support international law, you don't have to choose between Israel and Iran. Embassies are considered soverign soil of the nation they represent and so bombing an embassy is a direct attack on another country. When Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022 they got sanctioned by the international community. There are plenty of other examples in recent history of consequences for aggression. The only question is why is Israel exempt from consequences that apply to other countries? That's what this false dichotomy (Israel vs. Iran/Hamas/Hezbollah etc.) is trying to mask- instead of asking why Israel is exempt from legal consequences it changes the dialogue to "if you don't support Israel then you support terrorism" and thereby nullifies international law since the law is applied selectively.

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Revenge for revenge for revenge, oh my!

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago (15 children)

What exactly would you suggest a country does after another country bombs their embassy? Send flowers and say pretty please don't do it again uWu?

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[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What was Israel's rationale for bombing Iran's embassy in Syria and killing 12 Iranians? Revenge for what?

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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personally I think Iran kinda spoiled ever getting to complain about foul play involving foreign embassies, what I'm more interested in here is how far the US is gonna go in retaliation, because obviously they're gonna do something here, I'm just wondering how much it'll be and in what form.

Personally if I was making the call, I'd sweep the IDF out of Gaza altogether and relegate them to "defensive line duty", or more accurately "DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE TOUCH ANYTHING YOU GENOCIDAL MORONS.", and then kill two birds with an army of drones, Iran just invited destruction onto all of their war material production shit and Russia is probably shitting bricks that their entire reserve strategy just got exposed to causus belli.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Russia is gleefully rubbing their hands because they know the US public can literally only keep one thought in their heads at once and this grantees political apathy towards the Russian invasion.

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[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 67 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Inb4 lemmy supports Iran

Lots of false equivalances related to this war but being against Israel bombing an embassy in another country is not the same as supporting Iran. You don't have to choose between Israel and Iran, you have to choose between Israel and international law / human rights.

Phrasing it as "if you don't support Israel then you support Iran (or Hamas, Hezbolla etc.)" is to disregard the importance of international law and the fact that it applies to everyone.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is just more tankie bullshit. Russia and Iran have been getting buddy-buddy like crazy, especially right before the whole Hamas attack on Israel thing in fall last year. And of course, Iran feeds Hamas war materiel.

Russia is trying to make a war on multiple fronts to exhaust the US and make Biden unpopular while also running a campaign on social media to make Biden look bad and interfere with the 2024 election.

In other words, Russia REALLY wants Trump to win so they can end their expensive and punishing war in Ukraine and come out looking like they won something. Also, trump has made it clear that Israel would get free rein to "finish the problem."

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah israel committing Genocide and bombing the Iranian consulate is actually Putins masterplan to make Trump win.

Libs reaching QAnon levels of cope. Vote for God Emperor Biden everyone! He was forced into supporting Genocide!

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[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 47 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I support Iran’s defensive actions against Israeli aggression. I hope Iran chooses military and intelligence targets instead of civilian ones, in compliance with international law, despite Israel targeting primarily civilians in their war of conquest.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You’re supporting widening the war. You’re supporting more suffering and death. There is no genocide against Iran. Iran is stirring up trouble, widening the war, involving more and more people. That’s bad

[–] Gluten6970@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Israel intentionally caused this, not Iran.

[–] kbotc@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel blew up a compound where the IRGC was training Hezbollah. Go look up who died in the attack, no one’s refuting that bit of data. Hezbollah’s been in open conflict with Israel for months now.

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[–] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Iran intentionally caused all of this when they had Hamas attack in October. The whole point of Hamas starting shit was to derail peace talks between Israel and the Saudis. With one of the main focus areas being an official Palestinian state.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/09/1141302

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[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Comedy gold right here. You couldn't be more biased or more wrong if you tried.

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I am biased against genocide, wars of conquest, and bombing civilians. You got me

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who’s committing genocide in Iran? Are they killing off Kurds again?

Who’s trying to conquer Iran?

Who’s bombing civilians in Iran?

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[–] Atin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But you support Hamas who openly want to kill every Jew in the middle east.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel like you’re trying to play a game called “who has more blood on their hands,” and believe that game has a winner.

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[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 11 points 1 year ago

No one reading your comment will take you seriously when you claim OP said something they didn't say. You realize the comment is right there for us to read, right?

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And yet you support Iran bombing Israel.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Did Iran do any of those 3 in it’s retaliation strikes? No.

Right now Israel is doing all 3 of those however.

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[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Iran going to get its ass kicked.

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Let me just say fuck anyone who targets civilians.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes fuck Israel indeed.

The Biden administration expects Iran will also launch dozens of cruise missiles and ballistic missiles targeting Israeli government sites, not civilians or religious sites, a U.S. official said.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let’s see how many of those are “good shots.” And not “accidentally schools and hospitals”

Although, the irony would palpable.

[–] Shameless@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I can already see the headlines, "Iran targets hospitals, monsters!!!"

Takes rage baiting to a whole new extreme 🙃

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[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

vigerously starts watching the Amazon Fallout series

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just finished the first episode. If nukes start flying before I finish the series, I will be very annoyed.

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[–] nbailey@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I guess this is the next chapter in the endless middle-east war. The British & French got exactly what they wanted when they drew up those borders. It’s truly tragic how many people are going to die in the next decade because of religious and nationalistic despots and their egos.

[–] 00x0xx@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

This has very little to do with the colonial borders drawn by the British and French almost 100 years ago. Rather it's animosity due to more recent events. In this case, Israel's betray of the Iranian people right before the revolution of 1979.

[–] dmrzl@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

Even in that very long list of European crimes in history, Sykes-Picot really outshines the rest in how big of a fuckup it was.

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A more militarily active Iran is never a good thing.

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 21 points 1 year ago (7 children)

As opposed to an active genocidal occupier in Palestine?

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[–] juicy@lemmy.today 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Anyone taking action against a country committing genocide has my appreciation

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[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I'm glad Biden's saber rattling, instead of attempting de-escalation when it was hand out on a silver platter was effective!

No one could have seen that coming though, obviously.

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