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'If passed by the Senate and signed into law, the bill would broaden the legal definition of antisemitism to include the “targeting of the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity.'"

Pardon me, but what is this horseshit?

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[–] [email protected] 124 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"It's not an ethnostate! Also, you're racist if you criticize our ethnostate!"

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

Are they even claiming it's not an ethnostate anymore? If anything, that's a plus for some of them.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

For those who aren't aware, this bill aims to effectively enshrine into law the IHRA definition of antisemitism, which has been a controversial doctrine since its inception because critics say it unnecessarily curtails freedom of speech.

Hell, even the Zionist Anti-Defamation League say on their website that the IHRA definition is a guideline that should not be codified into law because it could be used to infringe the First Amendment:

ADL does not support the adoption and application of the IHRA Definition in a manner that would create new categories of legally prohibited speech that are subjected to either civil or criminal penalties – something we believe the First Amendment and principles of free speech would prevent.

This bill does very little that existing legislation does not already except have a chilling effect on freedom of speech on university campuses, and the fact that it got such widespread support from both Democrats and Republicans in the House is an absolute farce.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's a terrible bill, but I feel fairly confident that this will not get through the Senate, so I'm not all that concerned about it. It's performative at best.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Cope, both dems and Republicans strongly support this and it will pass both house and senate and Biden will sign it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Let's see the numbers for senate support. Or are you just being hopeful?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

You know you fucked up when it's the ADL telling you your pro-Israel rhetoric has gone too far.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A law like this is going to have the opposite of the “intended” effect. It’s going to make people hate Jewish folk as a whole. Imagine being part of the genocidal protected class, feeling untouchable, you’re going to push those boundaries more and more until you’re universally detested.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's the goal of the Zionists. They want to make sure Israel is the only safe haven, because they don't believe in multicultural societies like the US. Everything has to be an ethnostate. That's why they always make deals with right wing and outright antisemetic regimes like Hungary, apartheid South Africa and Saudi Arabia.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Jesus Christ, does this mean that a certain toothbrush mustachioed “camp counselor” was onto something? The thought sickens me, but things are starting to get a bit too muddied to be sure anymore.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Israel didn't exist when he was alive.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago

No, because he was against the whole ethnicity, not just the state.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

No, he was just a genocidal power hungry little fuck.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No, why would you get that from my post? What he did consider, however, before settling on the 'final solution', was deporting all the Jews, but nobody would take them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What he did consider, however, before settling on the 'final solution', was deporting all the Jews, but nobody would take them.

So there's probably an alternate timeline where Hitler created Israel to deport all the Jews‽

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

There’s also an alternative history where the United States and/or USSR accepted them all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

No, he loved the idea of shipping Jewish folks away. The real solution is to live peacefully with Jewish folks welcome in your communities. The way to stop those who will make ethnostates is to reject the concept of ethnostates

[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Tragic shit. Just another day in the conservative fascist multiverse

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (4 children)

This is happening under democrats tho....

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Democrats are right of center. America has no major left wing party.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit, this app is so much more politically educated than Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Heh Lemmy is just left of center so it seems better. You'll reconsider your position when you meet the tankies.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is happening in the House that is controlled by Republicans. Unfortunately a lot of Democrats voted for it too, but the only meaningful opposition also came from Dems. So Dems are split while Rs are all in on the genocide.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

There is like 15 dems in opposition and hundreds for it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

95 Dems voted yes. 92 voted "present," 13 voted "nay," and 13 did not vote.

Republicans - who again control the chamber - voted 216-1 in favor.

I stand by the accuracy of my comment.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Do you know what fascism actually is?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago
[–] pantyhosewimp 2 points 10 months ago

It irks me also that the vocabulary-lazy folks account for 85% of the population because they constantly steal words from us that have specific narrow meanings. My advice, to help aid in our mental health, is to assume that every use of “fascism” really means “authoritarianism”.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

conservative fascist multiverse

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If biden signs something like this i really see trump winning come November. There shouldnt be massive amounts of protest decrying a genocide and to have our president just look at everyone like they're the crazy ones for saying no to slaughtering a whole set of people. What benefit does america gain for defending Israel. Do they even do anything expect awfull shit. Like do they produce anything other than hate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You mean a benefit besides being a nuke depot in the middle east?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Hey now, we also have other weapons stationed there.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago

Oh boy, it's starting.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

A funny thing happens to a word when you give it additional definitions: the original definition loses meaning.

Great news for traditional antisemites

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Democrat snatch defeat from the jaws of victory speed run commence!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

Don't criticize the apartheid ethnostate now

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

So Israeli government propaganda is about to get turned into US law? So calling a criminal apartheid government as such is suddenly illegal...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

wrongthink must be stomped on, with impunity.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

The Netanyahu Censorship Act.