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As a second generation Latino I believe it has to do with assimilation. Most of my family works in construction in some way (including myself) and they're usually uneducated and easily manipulated. It's no surprise the right targets blue collar workers and bombards them with anti-social program rhetoric about "your tax dollars being used to fund the lazy" bullshit. Also, and I hate to say this, blacks and Latinos didn't mix historically. The BLM stuff moved a lot of minorities (Asians and others) away from the left and I'm still embarrassed by it - another example being that Latinos and whites get along in California jails and don't associate with blacks. Shits fucking retarded.

I can apply one of my favorite quotes to this situation: "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." - LBJ... but instead use brown instead of white 🤣

Because many people can only feel good about themselves if they think they are above someone else.

There are stupid people of every size shape, color, gender, and ethnicity.

The right intentionally tries to say Democrats are socialist, exactly like the socialists that you fled from in Cuba, etc. It's amazing that it works, but it does.

“we get called ‘white supremacists’ or ‘racists.’ There’s nothing racist about a guy called Gabriel Garcia.”

Ah *checks note a Spanish name. Yes Spain has zero white supremacist. /s https://albavolunteer.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/670201-spain-dictator-salute.jpg

Being Latin American doesn’t automatically mean you got indigenous or African ancestry.

Latinos have always been relatively conservative... but more and more Latinos are coming from deeply religious backgrounds.

I love it how motherjones insinuates the dreaded right wing is an evil cult.

• Latino is not a race. They are Spanish speakers, foremost.

• The author of the article presumably thinks that Latinos should want open borders, because they are the same race, or something of that nature.

• The author assumes that American Latinos should be proud of a country they were not born in, don't live in, and perhaps no family in.

• Latinos, Hispanics, Latinx, whatever liberals decide to call them, are not necessarily foreign to the soil of the US. Latinos been in the US since before the US expansion toward the West. They existed inside Texas when it was a republic. The Hispanos, that is what they call themselves of the American Southwest, are not Mexican, they have been around during the days of Spaniards. Do you really expect them to identify with a country for which they have no ancestral ties to? Furthermore, Mexican isn't a race. Mexico is a country where you have Mexican Jews, Mexican sub-Saharan Africans, Asian-Mexicans., and Amerindians.

• Some points the author gets mostly right: Yes, an invisible caste system does exist in a lot of Latin America, but not ALL of Latin America. Cubans and Dominicans are racially integrated while at the same time Dominicans are nationalist, and even pan-latin. You can't blame the continued existence of a caste system on white folks. You can't blame racial-ethnic tensions in South America between the Amerindians and mestizos on white folks, either. There are no white folks teaching Bolivians to be prejudice against each other.

• Hispanics may not like a country like Mexico, not because they're racist; they genuinely think the country sucks. That is rational. There is good nationalism and there is bad nationalism. Good nationalism seeks to improve the quality of the nation in economic well-being, or happiness, and security, through achievement. Bad nationalism is tribalism, and you will find a lot of that in Latin America as well. That is irrational because you imagine some special quality of being a national, but you can't quite figure out what. It is an issue of substance.

• What about the politics of Latinos? They do they like the US because it is a country of laws, or do you expect them to look onto a lawless country more favorably? Migrants vote with their feet.

What motherjones wants is to imagine is ourselves as communist, where we ignore our differences and assume we are all equal or the same. Motherjones wants you to think simply of right wing latinos as being influenced by the Ku Klux Klan. They miss the mark so often, I don't read them. Of course, it is about race, that is what motherjones is about.

Because no one likes to assume the the color of their skin or the language they speak means more than what they believe. Democrats are arrogant.

On the other hand, Republicans might actually put people against a wall for the color of their skin or the language they speak. But no one likes being taken for granted.

Edit: or to put it more bluntly, "promises made, promises... still being made! Shut up if you don't vote for us what are your options!!??"

Well. Our options are the other option. Not ideal, but at least they're really excited to see brown and black people give cover to white supremacy. Democrats aren't excited about brown and black support--they assume they deserve it.

I'm sure that hurts the feelings of the NPR-class of Democrats, but the numbers don't lie. Even Colin Jost makes the joke at the correspondents' dinner.

It's like when leftists get pissy the the working class keep voting against their interests but don't do anything to appeal to the working class.

Latinos aren't a monolith. They don't vote like a monolith. The article gets close to realizing that, but falls short. At the end of the day Latinos vote R for the same reason White people do.

Trump: Threatens mass deportation and actually does child kidnapping. Courts: Stops him. Trump: Starts "apply on your side" asylum policy. Biden: Keeps policy.

Trump: Threatens to build giant wall. Steals money from the military to build it. Courts: Stops him. Trump: Builds a smaller wall through a butterfly sanctuary. Biden: Keeps building the smaller wall.

Trump: Threatens to put razor wire flotilla out in the Rio grand. Texas: Does it. Biden: Tries to remove it. Courts: Stops him.

I think what latinos see is Biden is just what Trump would be like if he checked first with the courts before doing anti-Latino stuff. Biden needs to do PRO-latino stuff, not just try to stop anti-latino stuff.