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[–] [email protected] 250 points 1 year ago

As much as I love science, and I’d much rather see billions spent on a collider than war, I gotta admit this is funny as hell.

[–] [email protected] 133 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

I'd rather have a 100km particle collider than an aircraft carrier.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (8 children)

What if we build it on a 100km aircraft carrier? Think of the possibilities! heh

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its labourers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.

-Dwight D. Eisenhower

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 year ago (4 children)

for context 22 billion is a few billions less than what elon musk overpaid for twitter. i don't think a bigger collider will do anything but I'd like for humanity to have this rather than whatever the fuck the rich are doing now.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

22 billion is half of what Elon paid for Twitter. He paid 44 billion.

So this seems like a pretty good bargain for unlocking the secrets of the universe.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah.... And at least this will generate jobs... And not reduce them like it did on Xitter.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

Cern has produced quite some interesting systems for software and data management. I am sure the added value of the work is beyond just understanding particles.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

LHC and previous colliders did a lot of science. You don't need to think, there are facts.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 year ago

22 billion is such a drop in the bucket for a pan-European, decades long project. That's enough money to fund Israel's genocide for like, 72 hours.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If scientists had their way they'd have built the big one first. Or at least something reasonably larger than what they have.. it's politics that is capitalism and war that is the addiction preventing us from having nice things

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the experience of building the previous smaller ones helped though. I think if you just go for the large one, it will probably fail or overrun the budget and we'll have nothing to show for the money spent.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

Is not only about physics research. The complexity of those projects fund hundreds of sectors and push forward new technologies who will have many commercial use.

...Also they've confirmed the existence of this little thing called Higgs Boson which field define pretty much reality, soo... not exactly wasted time.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'm waiting on the equatorial supercollider myself. 40,075km let's go!

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just make one big enough that you can use billionaires instead of atomic particles

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Do billionaires split apart into multiple millionaires, and anti-tax neutrinos?

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You know what WOULD solve physics?

TRAINS

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

Yes, trains!

Maybe in a very, very large circular track. A huge circle.

And fast. Super fast. Make them faster by making them lighter. Smaller. Super tiny. So light and fast.

A teeny, tiny, light train going super duper fast in a very large circle.

Sure hope it doesn't smack into anything while going top speed. Or maybe it does, so long as we measure it.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yessss run the trains through the collider

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I feel like this should be required watching for anyone who wants to better understand colliders and the politics around them. BobbyBroccoli made this series on the development of some of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivVzGpznw1U

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I don't want to learn science from someone named BobbyBroccoli.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

How about Robby Ravioli instead?

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And I think it's beautiful.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (5 children)

What would happen if we put a small collider inside of a bigger collider and spun it around while it spun around?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

"Yo dawg, I heard you like colliders, so we built a collider into your collider so it can collide while it collides...."

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You just know the letters of the FCC originally stood for Fucking Collosal Collider.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This is starting to turn into some Full Metal Alchemist shit. If you know, you know.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How else will we transmogrify enough souls to create a philosopher stone


I mean do science stuff?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

22 billion is just a drop in the bucket to the Committee of 300 on their path to world domination.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just wait, if civilization and/or human life still exists in a thousand years or so, they'll build one into an orbital ring.

Eh who am I kidding, well be lucky to survive the 21st century.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Starting to be suspicious like an alchemy circle around multiple cities...

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