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As Cities Skylines II still isn't worth it (the sub has a regular thread about that, in summary: no it's not: https://old.reddit.com/r/CitiesSkylines/comments/1ch6lup/is_cities_skylines_ii_worth_it_megathread/) which games scratch your city building itch?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

I've been playing not much else than city builders in the past year or two, for some reason.

Surviving Mars is good imo, and so is Frostpunk, but both involved a decent bit of trial and error to figure out. For Frostpunk that ended up being a strength, but not sure if I'd have just done a tutorial for Surviving Mars if I would have had fewer problems.

I have like 400 hours in Satisfactory, some people consider it a city builder, I guess for resource management reasons. But there aren't cute little people to watch so I don't know about that, haha. Fun though.

Kingdoms and Castles is a very cute game, but probably too easy. Still, very relaxing to play which is nice.

I also enjoyed Jurassic World Evolution, driving the jeep through the park you've built is very fun.

For the past few months I've been playing tons of Oxygen Not Included. It's really fun, but tricky, and the simulation differs from how actual physics works enough that some mechanics are unintuitive for me. It's a game that I had to figure out a specific reason to keep playing though, as once you get the main problems fixed you're arguably "done", but it's not all that hard to get a self-sustaining colony.

I tried Rimworld, and found it a very weirdly unsatisfying game. Imo it's too slow and tedious to be good as a "story generator" but the problems you face are also too banal but also devastating for it to be a good city builder. I'm guessing a lot of people would hate me for saying I actually prefer Stranded: Alien Dawn to Rimworld, even though it's just a 3d copy. But Stranded Alien Dawn is more fun to watch your people do stuff and I enjoy being able to build 3d houses too. It's almost more like The Sims.

I also briefly tried Against the Storm, but I dunno, it didn't really grab me. Seemed really slow.

Timberborn is a fantastic game, and everyone should play it. Just fantastic. I started before the badwater update and I think there's merits to either mode, so if you wanna play safer, you can turn off badwater for a game and it's still super solid.

I just bought Manor Lords, but I'm gonna wait till it gets updated more before I crack it open. My ONI world has a lot of work still.

Also, like everyone else says, Banished is great (though the UI leaves something to be desired, but it's also a custom game engine from the one dev) and Cities Skylines is good too. Haven't tried CS 2.

I also really wanna try Captains of Industry, but I've gotta pace myself

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm a huge RimWorld fan, I'm curious, did you use the fast forward button? If you stay on regular speed, it can really drag. I believe many players just leave it on 3x speed and pause when an emergency arrives.

Your opinion is valid regardless, I just find significant overlap in our preferences, so this surprises me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I was playing on 3x for most of the time. I know, I was surprised that I didn't really seem to get it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Last time I dipped into Oxygen Not Included, the rocket program was enough to get me to push past self-sustenance. Unfortunately in the end, getting the details of the program right just annoyed me. I don't know if it's me or if the game's just not set up well to handle large-scale construction. Building fuel production ended up being more fun than actually building the rocket silos.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

re: rimworld

it's really important to read the messages and the little bits (like the logs when a social fight occurs) to really get immersed in the story!

might be worth watching some YouTubers playing to see what i mean!

hazzor usually does a good job of getting into the story, so does ambiguousAmphibian

but as the others said: if it's really not for you, then it's just not for you!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I will say, the couple times my colonists got into nearly deadly altercations due to one of them being a pyschopath and going around starting fights was actually interesting. But that kind of conflict was much less frequent than 80% of my pawns being in the hospital due to an attack from neighboring clans

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm really very much not a City builder guy so grain of salt here: I really enjoyed Banished.

I dislike the scale of other games- in stuff like Cities Skylines I tend to get overwhelmed by how much is going on and everything I need to make work together. So I guess it makes sense that I prefer a village builder over a city builder lol

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Workers and Resources: Soviet Republic flashbacks intensify.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm the same way with games that just get overwhelming and I loose interest.

Ostriv is another game like Banished where it is smaller scale so you might like that too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Ooh, thanks. I'll check it out!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I really love Caesar III, nostalgia plays a role, but I just like it overall.

Nebuchadnezzar (https://store.steampowered.com/app/1157220/Nebuchadnezzar/) seems to be a nice recent game in the same style. It seems promising, but not "there yet" compared to C3 and Pharaoh.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

I can't believe I forgot Caesar and Pharaoh. I played the f out of those when I was a PC only player. I sucked at them but loved them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I think I need to check Nebuchadnezzar out.

Emperor: Rise of the Middle Kingdom is still my favorite in this genre by a mile. Dripping with cultural flavor, and there was really something about monument building in all of the games in this series.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I agree with most of the suggestions here, and I’ll also throw out Tropico 6. It’s one of the few coty builders outside of Frostpunk where the soundtrack actively pulls me into the experience. It’s also fun building up an island balancing between investing in economic growth, citizen happiness to get reelected, or military/oppression methods so you don’t have to get elected.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Tropico is nice.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Dwarf Fortress

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

skylines 1, factorio (its not quite a city builder but close enough), oxygen not included, sim tower (the elevator simulator)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I just found out last week factorio is on a system that I own. Turns out there was a major addiction missing in my life.

As a programmer, I knew I would enjoy it. What I didn't realise was that in just a week it would literally make me better at my job.

I'm playing the game, and solving problems for work, I'm working, and solving problems in the game, in a huge feedback loop.

Can a video game make you better person? I'm not sure, but if they can, this and Kerbal Space Program are the ones to do it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I love SimTower. I’ll pull it out from time to time.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Sim City 2000 used to be my game and I’m looking for the same vibe on a non-demanding game I can play on my Surface Go 1 with Fedora.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Anno 1800, love working with the supply chain.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Anno 1800

I've been eyeing the boardgame version which is also highly regarded. I guess will have to look into the original too. Always fun when hobbies intersect.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Haven't played Manor lords yet but through all the games, Foundation checked all the right boxes for me. Definitely worth a look

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Against the Storm is my favorite one. It gives me my favorite part of city building: the early/mid game.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've been playing this as well and really enjoying it. Now I need a similar game that does early game Civilization.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As in, turn based? Or grander?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

SimCity4 Deluxe modded to a state of fragile beauty

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I play a lot of random city builders and enjoyed most of what's already listed by others here.

Haven't seen these ones mentioned yet (I think), but you could check out these to see if any tickle your fancy:

Modern:

  • Haven Dock

Prehistoric:

  • Dawn of Man

Casual:

  • ISLANDERS
  • Microtown

Fantasy:

  • Founders' Fortune
  • Airborne Kingdom
  • The Wandering Village
  • Fabledom
  • Noble Fates

Medieval:

  • dotAGE
  • Foundation
  • Going Medieval
  • Farthest Frontier
  • Kingdoms Reborn
  • Settlement Survival
  • Clanfolk

Sci-fi:

  • Cliff Empire
  • Space Haven
  • IXION
  • Stranded: Alien Dawn
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I honestly love Going Medieval. I found out about it from Spiffing Brit and Ambiguous Amphibian videos and have made a few different settlements since.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

songs of syx deserves a mention. You get people to watch too. It seems quite fun, but I've only played it for 10h so far.

Factorio without a doubt, but I'm not sure it's really a city I built more of a satellite factory vibe.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)
  • Ostriv
  • Banished
  • Surving the Aftermath
  • Frostpunk
  • Planetbase

Smaller scale than Cities Skylines and also have other gameplay mechanics but that's how I like it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Simutrans is quite interesting, although it's probably closer to a Transport Tycoon than a SimCity. Otherwise I tend to go for SimCity 3000.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

I still play SimCity sometimes. The SNES version. There's something beautiful on slowly building your city, solving problems that arrive, and when you're don... oh wait you're never done! (Not even with the Mario statue.)

More into colony sim territory: Oxygen not Included, Dwarf Fortress, RimWorld. In special I've been playing the later quite a bit (1.4 version, up to Biotech), selectively breeding colonists to get superpawns.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Farthest Frontier.

Its got crop rotation!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Ostriv, it is made by a single Ukrainian developer. Been working on it since before the war. Nothing brings about as much of a sense of tranquility and peace. Just you and your slowly growing and living XVIII c. village.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I have been playing Manor Lords recently. It is a medieval city builder like Banished, but with fighting battles for land, etc. The game is still in early development though. Its a one man indie developer, or as so I've heard.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

that pupppy got big paws.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Timberborn! It's a city builder about beavers, the primary conceit is that there are periodic droughts that can and will kill all your beavers if you haven't saved enough water.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Waiting for it to leave Early Access :( the concept is so cool, casting one of nature's builders as the characters in a city builder…

Now I am thinking about a ~~city~~ hive-builder. Would make bee fans happy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Currently surviving mars

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

City building is my favorite game genre but I totally suck at them.

I keep telling myself to build slow but I always end up growing too fast I can't handle the problems that arise with it. I end up resetting and repeating.

Banished

Cities skylines 1

Sim City 4

Anno 1804

Manor Lords

To name a few.