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[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 108 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Gross, glad I bought a Steam Deck instead.

So disappointing to hear all these stories about Asus pulling shady stuff, they used to be one of the best PC companies out there.

[–] Retrograde@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

but won't somebody think of the shareholders?? Line must go up!!

But for real though the steam deck was always going to be a better option for so many reasons

[–] ricdeh@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago
[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

They're still pretty good at least here in Asia. The horror stories I hear of Asus support in the US is a might and day difference from what I experienced. Their Taiwan HQ needs to smash some sense into the US office and clean house.

[–] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.ml 90 points 11 months ago (13 children)

Why would anyone buy this instead of a steamdeck?

[–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 42 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because some gamers think windows would be better for this. And maybe a little bit of gamer brand loyalty

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, some folks don't want to tinker and do like to play games with DRM that won't work on Linux. It's also a little more powerful than the Deck.

I love my deck so much that I broke my tinkering with computers outside of work hours rule in order to set up some Steam remote play boxes (HoloISO based) on mini PCs scattered throughout the house so I don't have to be next to my gaming rig to play. I don't really play anything online that has the Windows only DRM so Linux is great for me. But I get it when people have things they want to do and don't have the time, know how, or desire to fuck with their systems.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

What's the advantage of the mini PCs over a relatively cheap Android TV with the Steam Link app or even an old Steam Link hardware?

What's the hardware you're using?

I have been doing local streaming from my gaming PC to devices around tbe house (using mostly Steam and Moonlight) for nearly a decade.

I just find the steam stuff maddeningly buggy (setups that worked a month ago suddenly start having some new issue, usually Steam Input or otherwise controller-related). But when things work, it's fantastic. Especially for living room gaming with friends (or my kid)

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[–] hayz00z@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

I bought it because I was able to go to Best Buy and trade in my Mac Book for a gift card and walk out with one.

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's got better specs on paper but in practice, my Steam Deck just just about everything without issue, even new games and most games that are "unsupported" (at least as far as I've tried).

Some people might also like the layout better or just be fond of Asus as a company from the good old days when they were actually decent.

[–] Lesrid@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

Because they don't need touchpads and like an asymmetrical layout

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 4 points 11 months ago

Online gaming for certain games. Proton doesn't work with some online DRMs.

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[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 77 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

They've been a shit company for over a decade at least.

I got a laptop for my wife back when we were in college. It developed a problem with the monitor where the screen would look all corrupt after using it for a little bit. My wife, while reciting the prayer of percussive maintenance, would whack it and the problem would go away for a while. So I figured the connection had come loose. No biggie, just reseat it or replace it. The warranty had expired, so I cracked it open to see what was wrong. I reseated the cables in it and it worked... for a bit. Then the problem came back. Eventually we got fed up and bought another one, same model, figuring it was a fluke... It developed the same issue. Come to find out, Asus cheaped out in the ribbon cable for the monitor and installed ones that were too short for the laptop. Looking online, there were a bunch of people complaining about the same thing.

Around the same time as I had gotten her the new laptop, I'd also bought an Asus ZenPad for her to read on. We'll, that suddenly developed a screen issue too! Almost exactly the same as the laptops! My wife, ever eager to apply kinetic reinforcement, found that twisting the tablet a little bit also fixed the issue. I went online and, sure enough, Asus used cheap cables again! They would last just long enough for the warranty to expire before they'd detach.

I swore to myself I'll never buy another Asus product as long as I live. If I ever have kids, I'll disown them if they do too... Fuck these scammers.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I highly doubt they used those cables maliciously knowing they'd go out right when the warranty expired. It was probably a cost thing, and they later realized (too late to fix it) during production sometime that the cables were a warranty issue.

Engineers don't do thing maliciously with their designs. They pick things based on cost, and probably even raised the cable length as a risk/concern during the design and testing phase, and were overruled by the bean counters.

It's happened to me before.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 50 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Even in your defense, you point out that someone at the company made the explict choice to sell devices with defective cabling. At no point did he blame the engineers who designed it for that choice.

That's a shit company that doesnt deserve anyone's support, regardless if it was "engineers" or "bean counters" that opted to continue to sell what they knew was a defective product.

The fact that it happened over and over with multiple devices means it's a culture issue with the company, not a one off mistake.

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[–] slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 48 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Tech Jesus had a video about this recently too. I’ll stay far away from Asus

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

I think Gamers Nexus also did a video on it recently.

Edit: I'm an idiot and I just recently started watching GN so I had no idea it was the same channel 🤷‍♂️

[–] Fermion@mander.xyz 26 points 11 months ago

Tech Jesus is a colloqial name for Steve Burk of Gamers Nexus because of his hairstyle resembling old depictions of Jesus.

[–] slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

Tech Jesus = GamersNexus

All hail Steve!

[–] KryptoSynth@ani.social 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I believe Steve did a video on it as well recently. Fortunately, looks like I dont own any Asus devices.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I believe also Tech Jesus did a video too. Lots of stuff going on with this.

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[–] WhiteHotaru@feddit.de 8 points 11 months ago

Louis picked it up from Gamers Nexus, as he says in the video.

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 10 points 11 months ago

Gamers Nexus is killing it over the past few years. So many shitty companies taken down.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 10 points 11 months ago

Tech Jesus he mentions he spoke to Louis Rossman about this in his video. So it kinda makes sense Louis would also make a video about it.

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[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 46 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My own experience with Asus warranty was of utter incompetence.

It was a long time ago, around 10 years or so, and I sent a newly acquired laptop for repairs because of constants BSOD. Waited a month before getting it back... Without sound. Turn out they forgot to reconnect the sound card. I sent it back for repair, waited another month (because even if they are at fault, they won't even fast track that repair), only to get it back with a nonfunctional touchpad. I don't use it, so I didn't send it back a third time, because who know what would have come back damaged that time.

So their repair woes aren't recent. When their stuff works, it works well, but pray that you won't need to RMA it.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 33 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I love how the latest generation of gamers are finally finding out that Asus has always been, and always will be, a dogshit company.

[–] fluckx@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fucking Asus transformer pad.

Please send it back for free and we'll check if the damage is under warranty. If not you'll need to pay 50$>to get your device back.

FUCK. OFF. Ship it back for free if it isn't under warranty. Or have a contract with a shop nearby that can determine if it's under warranty.

Last time I bought anything Asus.

[–] fluckx@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Actually that's a lie. I have their routers in house which, for now, all seem to run pretty decently

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah even in this video the guy was saying they used to be great, but after having like 3 motherboards fail prematurely and dealing with their crappy RMA process, I learned long ago that their reputation isn't deserved. I did buy a couple of their routers which seems fine for now but I won't be giving them more money in the future after watching this

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Back in university at the turn of the millennia I was a front-line desktop support guy and the amount of Acer and Asus laptops that came in just completely falling apart was insane.

[–] celeste@kbin.earth 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I was in college around the same time and recall doing my usual minimum research for a new system and still to this day think "acer's crap, right?" when someone mentions it, even though the memory of why is gone.

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[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

Jay stopped promoting their stuff, tech jesus just did a report on them and our fair repair guy is on it too. Fuck Asus.

[–] Xantar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I've been told that originally Asus was called Pegasus. But they shortened it to be listed higher in alphabetical order lists.

Guess they're trying to 😎 bring back the Peg.

[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

So they've already done the pegging, and are now just the Asus?

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Pegatron, and that was the OEM motherboard branch of ASUS, which the likes of HP used for a long while. Also ASRock, which is a split off from Pega.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Link ot the actual source. No need to give someone regurgitating their content the ad impressions instead of the people doing the work.

[–] Marketsupreme@lemm.ee 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Louis Rossman is as respectable as GN tbf

[–] tuckerm@supermeter.social 28 points 11 months ago

GN also asked him for advice as part of their video -- they mention him a few times in it.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Louis is clickbaity as fuck though.

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