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[–] [email protected] 75 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

What have new generations been led into thinking that the internet is supposed to be? They dont even know what a directory is or what a file path is, because of design that dumbs things down...

It is important, because what people think the internet is and what they value will affect what it will evolve into.

E.g. wikipedia is reflects somehow my view of the internet in the 2000s (Encarta :D)...but for some people today the internet is just social media...or just videos?

[–] [email protected] 48 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Internet of the 90s and early 2000s were introduced as a library where people consulted text for information. There was an introduction (tutorials), a userbase that's educated and/or eager to learn, and most importantly, it was the wild west where companies didn't think much of except for just having a .com address. This is where our view of search engines come from - to consult with keywords and read.

This is no longer the case. It's no longer seen as a library, but a shopping mall where you have advertisements shoved down your throat and flashy stuff that grab your attention. For people who were born after smartphones and grew up without knowing the early stuff, the search engine is... well, do people know or even care about that?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

That's the best way I've heard the current internet being described... One giant shopping mall with ads.

And it sucks.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

E.g. wikipedia is reflects somehow my view of the internet in the 2000s (Encarta :D)…but for some people today the internet is just social media…or just videos?

BTW, does anybody know of an offline encyclopedia which works under Wine?

I liked those too.

The Internet for me was about finding texts about fandoms or anything interesting, roleplaying forums, chats and some browser games. Downloading MP3`s once in a while, downloading and printing Star Wars pics.

EDIT:

They dont even know what a directory is or what a file path is, because of design that dumbs things down…

A kiosk with services.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

BTW, does anybody know of an offline encyclopedia which works under Wine?

You can download wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download

edit: if you really meant you want to see if any old encyclopedias work under wine, I never tried :D

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I know, I meant something interactive from that time, complete and consistent. Like Encarta.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm still consulting my venerable encyclopaedia britannica dvd until this day. It works great under wine and actually does not work under a current version of windows anymore.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It works great under wine

Which version is that?

EDIT: Never mind

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Ah. I actually found the 2004 version and the script to run it on Linux, and it works except for world atlas

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I get all my information about dinosaurs from Dinosaur safari. Not sure about other topics.

https://www.myabandonware.com/game/dinosaur-safari-a10

[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago

Irony is not exactly lost when this article requires jumping through hoops to read after presenting the hook about toilet theory and saying that the author uses it to imagine what the audience is like.

As a distracted audience I'd rather go distract over something else then create an account

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

Fantastic framing! Not just of the internet, but the whole economic sector including big tech, various publishers, of course the ads industry and now all of the push for winning the AI platform wars.

It's a toilet economy! Fueled by the attention, tastes, inclinations and urges of people taking a shit! And now, as AI "learns" from the internet, also fed by and literally made of the writings and thoughts of people ... taking a shit.

It's also a nice litmus test for what kind of internet space somewhere online is based on where people are when they comment or post: "Is this a toilet or desk space". Depending on what you're after, you will probably want to know if you're in the right kind of place.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

I don't mind looking through several pages of results, but the problem is that many results are the same web domains, which causes glazed-over eyes seeing the same results. So, I think it's the search engine's fault for this behavior, at least for me.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Constipation? Gives some of the much needed focus for reading articles on-line

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Can I read the full article without yet another goddamn account?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m one of those people… I get overwhelmed with information and freeze. ChatGPT moves me out of the freeze stress response. I’m excellent at qa and following instruction, but awful at organization. My progress has drastically improved because I delegate my weaknesses. I do hope that I can continue using this tool to help me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

It’s a lack of strategy, and not being able to overcome the obstacle. It stinks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Reminder: there are other great search engines. Nobody is forcing you to use Google search. Kagi! Kagi!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Kagi is great, but I just can't miss $5 a month for it.

I'm using Qwant now and it's pretty good.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I totally understand! Speaking of my own use, it’s particularly nice because I get more relevant returns and there is the lens feature. also I use the summarization for a lot of things. Very useful