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[–] [email protected] 81 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Good for her. She's facing a steep uphill battle because she's not the GOP's preferred candidate. But the party needs more smart, moderate, clear-thinking representatives like her. Hopefully with this campaign she will be an example for others.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago

Oh they'll make an example of her. I'm sure the GOP want all the newcomers to know just what happens if you don't toe the line.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Im wondering why she doesn’t run as a Democrat but trying to pull the nuthouse closer to centre is a good thing too.

[–] [email protected] 89 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’d actually argue this is better than just running as a Dem. As a Dem its just noise. But as Rep she stands to get some exposure and getting the base there to actually have a conversation about these important issues.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

The political reality in ND is that having the (D) is the end of the road for you. Since neither party actually represents a specific policy platform, I guess it's 6 of 1 in an environment like that.

After all, what are modern Republicans even about? Obviously they want to deny global warming, police uteruses, kill queer people, theocratize the government... but what policies do they actually care about that aren't equally present in the Democratic caucus?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago

what are modern Republicans even about?

Cruelty. You can run circles around pretty much any issue pointing out examples of their hypocrisy and inconsistency, but they're pretty reliable with harming their community.

Once you acknowledge that the cruelty is the point, their bullshit starts to make a lot more sense.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They want to deny police uteruses? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Not even metaphorically. They want to deny all uteruses. Police or otherwise lol.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

To run as a Democrat in ND is to automatically lose. The portion of the electorate that will refuse to look beyond the team sports identity is so huge, if you actually want to participate, you have to technically be a member of the correct "team".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

I am amazed at how broadly your comment could be applied to nearly all political scenarios. There are three independents or non-blue/red in all of both houses of congress. And one of them is Simena who got elected as a Dem I believe.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Who cares she still a republican and therefore sucks.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Don’t you want people who would change the Republican Party so they suck less? Or are you an accelerationist?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

I've still yet to see an example of this hypothetical person you're alluding to, who is genuinely working towards this change in the gop? It is really only oppositionist and temporary.

Liz cheney, for example, seemed to be something approaching this during impeachment, but she was just fighting for her political life and saw her only angle. And of course, in the same breath she'll say that "liberals are aborting babies after they are born".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I want two, pro-choice parties. I want two anti-trump parties. I want two pro-gun parties.

When the shit that the parties differ on is shit I don't care about, mission accomplished.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There should be no pro gun parties.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Agreed.

There should also be no violent crime. No assault, rape, murder. No beatings, stabbings. No kidnappings, armed robberies, burglaries, arsons. No suppressiin of dissidents. No invasions or genocides.

And when we finally achieve all of those, I fully agree: there should be no guns.

Until that day, every political party should be pro-gun.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lol no. You won't be getting a reduction in crime without a reduction in firearms.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How does that work?

I mean, the overwhelming majority of violent crimes are committed without the perpetrator being armed with a gun.

Are you under the impression that the mere existence of guns leads people who don't have them to commit violent crimes? What is the mechanism by which guns drive violent criminals without guns to violently crime?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There are more mass shootings in the US every week than there were in the whole of Europe in the last decade.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

So mass shootings are not a crime. I see...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The fact that Ukraine is in Europe tells me that is untrue. Or did you forget that I included suppression of political dissidents, invasions, and genocide among my reasons for an armed populace?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

This is the feel good news I needed in my day.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The qualifications you need as a politician these days

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

We are not utopians. We know that an unskilled labourer or a cook cannot immediately get on with the job of state administration. In this we agree with the Cadets, with Breshkovskaya, and with Tsereteli. We differ, however, from these citizens in that we demand an immediate break with the prejudiced view that only the rich, or officials chosen from rich families, are capable of administering the state, of performing the ordinary, everyday work of administration. We demand that training in the work of state administration be conducted by class-conscious workers and soldiers and that this training be begun at once, i.e., that a beginning be made at once in training all the working people, all the poor, for this work.

- alleged mushroom.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

FLazy: No public nudes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

She would be the repugs pelosi

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don’t even get the comparison. Are you calling Pelosi hot or something?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No. She was also a pageant participant

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

All I’m getting when I try to google that is this sort of thing: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nancy-pelosi-miss-lube-rack-1959/

What are you referring to?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Maybe thats where i saw it. Thanks for clearing it up