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[–] [email protected] 183 points 11 months ago (3 children)

“I’m not sure the public would stand for it,” he said. “I think it would be tough for the public to take. You know, at a certain point, there’s a breaking point.”

This mf really trying to do it again.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (10 children)

House arrest is not a penalty that would help him rehabilitate.

He needs an actual jail to learn anything.

At very least he should be doing community service. Maybe picking trash on a highway.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't think he's capable of learning any lessons from any sentence the court can provide.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Maybe picking trash on a highway.

He has already spent years picking up trash all over the country.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (4 children)

House arrest without internet, telephone, television, constant visitors: that would work.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

One year per count and no electronic communications allowed? A violation adds one more year to the sentence automatically.

That yellow is gonna White really shiny real quick.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How many years left do you think he has? A year per violation is already more years than he has left. So, a year per violation just means more years he'd never serve.

Instead, a violation should mean something like a week in jail with no delays--straight to jail. That would actually have a meaningful impact on him.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It won't work though. Remember how he asked for mass gatherings at his trial and it didn't happen?

January 6th required a huge number of Trump rallygoers from all over the country to mass in one place, for them to get fired up to commit violence by multiple speakers, for Trump himself to say that he personally was going to go with them to the Capitol, and for Trump to do virtually nothing about the insurrection for hours.

There might be lone wolf attacks here and there, but there won't be some great MAGA uprising.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

There might be lone wolf attacks here and there, but there won't be some great MAGA uprising.

Even that could turn scary though. One lone wolf attack could inspire more and those inspire even more, eventually leading us to an American Years of Lead

The Trump base has shown us how insane they are before, I don't want to underestimate what they'll do next.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Maybe, but don't underestimate good old American laziness.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Prison, please. If it ends up being just between those two then jail. House arrest is not punishment for him.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

Even if he gets house arrest, I just hope they take away internet access from him, so we can get the break from seeing his stupid name in the news

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

House arrest means he can't hold campaign rallies.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He'll do anything to get out of debating Biden

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

appears at rallies via a zoom call, crumpled shirt and house in disarray in the background.

"Look at what they did to me I can't even have a maid come clean I just....they'll take yours too!"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

You know, I'm okay with this that you propose.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter what he is ok with, he will do whatever the judge decides.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (15 children)

Merchan will remain moderate. Prison is possible, but not probable for nonviolent class E felonies. The last thing he wants is to feed Trump’s attorneys argument for bias at appeal.

Part of sentencing is determined by the defendant’s character, and Merchan has already spoken against his interest in jailing a former President for violating the gag order. However, Trump has over a month to demonstrate his character prior to sentencing, and he’s not doing himself any favors in that department.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Of course he'd be okay with house arrest. Mara Largo has golf and beautiful cake and no poors.

Jail would be him and the Secret Service in solitary. I can't imagine he'd be okay with even that.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're looking at it from the wrong angle.

He wants a tough sentence with jail time.

  1. As a technically "first offender" they can argue that it shows obvious bias and get a favourable appeal result.
  2. It plays to Putin and other autocrat propaganda. "See how the US actually is, we have the same democracy here" sort of thing.
  3. Most importantly, it plays to his cult and to his ego, he gets to stoke dangerous things which very nearly almost worked last time (only thanks to Pence and the few cops who stood up to the mob.) and he gets a ton of attention from his cult for it.
[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

I think he'll think that until the cold wet fish of reality slaps him in the face.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago

Honestly, I'm perfectly ok for him to go to jail for even a week. Then we would have already setup the foundation on how we would jail him in the future, indefinitely.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Jail, I vote Jail, please I wanna see that bastard in a jumpsuit

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Felonies in New York, does that mean Rikers? Asking for a friend

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Rikers is a jail which means it houses three groups. Those are pretrial detainee, people convicted of misdemeanors (crimes punishable by up to a year), or people convicted of felonies (crimes punishable by more than a year) but who were sentenced to less than a year.

If he is sentenced to incarceration for over a year, Trump would go to one of New York's prisons. If under a year, he could go to a jail like Rikers.

*edit to fix horrible phrasing.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Ugh, I saw another link there, “rumored running mate Tom Cotton”. Whoever he picks, it will be one of the shittiest people possible.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I'm old enough to remember thinking how crazy it was that GW was somehow worse than Reagan...

Then trump showed up.

It seems like a forgone conclusion whoever is next will be worse. And I don't know why everyone else keeps acting like the issue with modern republicans is trump. trump is the symptom, it might be the symptom that kills us, but it's still a symptom.

So if you think trumps's VP will be one the shittiest people, just wait to see whoever runs as a Republican next.

It's been decades, we need to recognize this is a long term problem, and our solution needs to reflect that.

Constantly moving right, just drives the republicans further right to differentiate.

If Dems embraced progress, Republicans would run someone more moderate in an attempt to steal moderate voters. I don't think we'd lose as much as we do now, but even if we did the worst would be someone closer to Biden than trump. And with wins meaning something again, participation goes up. Which is why Dems would win more.

Essentially, never think republicans have reached rock bottom, you'll be constantly surprised. They can always go lower...

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I 100% agree and have observed that myself. Whenever it’s like “oh thank god Hastert is gone” or “phew, finally rid of Boehner” they manage to find someone even worse.

Also, good point that Trump gets too much credit. He didn’t create this bizarre Republican psyche - he’s simply a perfect embodiment of their behavior.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

The disease is the media, owned by the rich with an agenda who have no oversight

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He won't spend a day in prison. I don't believe it will happen. Even if he gets sentenced, he'll just drop dead before setting foot in a cell.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

That's fine too

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He says that like he does not understand he will not be able to shit post for a while and when he does it will only be for a short amount of time.

Could be an epic time out for him

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

Be funny if the judge reads that to him at sentencing.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Ok, cool, jail it is. A huge W for America.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

I never thought I’d agree with Trump on anything, but here we are.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

If he thinks they're the same...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

I wonder if the Trump huffers will change their tune when photos of a pale, obese old man with that one hair dangling down his neck get published.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Ok, sure. He lists his properties as private residences so give him the choice to travel between any of his properties but while under house arrest visitors must me excluded and go by the same rules as any other person visitor of granted access.

He'll get house arrest but he'll lose all his businesses.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Yeah... house arrest in Mar-a-lago... i'd expect everyone everywhere would be ok with indefinite house arrest there as long as Trump wasn't there

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

please go to jail. I want to see him without his makeup crew

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