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[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 61 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The European tally line diagonal from top left to bottom right feels wrong.

I usually see it the other way.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yep, the example in OP seems wrong (for right handed people), it's very awkward line to pull

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not in my experience. Diagonal down is easy to pull

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[–] shaman1093@lemmy.ml 12 points 10 months ago

This is the way

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I've always felt the same about the "no" sign:

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Looks to me as if all the ghosts have been busted.

[–] Fester@lemm.ee 60 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago
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[–] rauls4@lemm.ee 27 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Every time this gets posted it gets debunked.

[–] NemoWuMing@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Oh? I can confirm it's true for North America and China, at least.

Is it the middle one that gets debunked?

[–] hswolf@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Brazilian here, some of us do use the middle one

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 42 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago
[–] GardenVarietyAnxiety@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I dig that one. I'm going to start using it over the N American set

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Personally I've never seen the middle one but that just my personal experience ofc. What I do myself is the left one with a horizontal line

Edit: forgot to mention I'm from Brazil too

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

where are you from brasil?

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 17 points 10 months ago

Right one is 100% used in Japan. Particularly at bars and such for keeping track of how many of that drink the person/table has ordered.

[–] Akisamb@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago

French here we use both the middle and the left. It depends on the group of friends.

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[–] gianni@lemmy.ca 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Since when is Brazil not part of South America?

[–] moroni@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

We’re special. 😂 I guess because we are a lot similar to other South American countries, but also very different. For instance, we don’t even speak Spanish.

[–] jobby@lemmy.today 19 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The Asian one makes no sense.

[–] xanu@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the final one is the symbol for "five" and it takes 5 strokes to draw. it'd be like drawing a 5 one segment at a time in an eight segment number display as the tally marks.

[–] gramie@lemmy.ca 24 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You are wrong. This is the character for "correct". "Five" is similar. Both have five strokes.

五 = five

正 = correct, positive

[–] Rubanski@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

“Five” 五 has four strokes

[–] gramie@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Oh, you are right. It's been a couple of decades since I actually had to write Japanese by hand.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So then why aren't they using '五' to make the tally marks?

Trends are weird.

[–] Rubanski@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

Because it actually has four strokes. The "L" in the middle is one stroke

[–] jobby@lemmy.today 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I still don’t like it. It’s not a logical placement of strokes. No I don’t care that the Kanji ultimately means ‘5’.

I don’t like it. It’s aesthetically displeasing with no logic.

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

It’s only aesthetically displeasing to you because you come from a western background. For someone used to say mandarin it is quite aesthetically pleasing. The final bottom stroke “closes” the set in a satisfying way that is consistent Chinese character stroke order.

Some things are culturally relative. Aesthetics is one of those things.

[–] jobby@lemmy.today 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I understand that, But they’re still wrong.

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (5 children)

The world is a wonderful and diverse place. Looking at your comment history I see some slurs that, to me at least, hint that you are a younger person.

My main advice to have empathy, be accepting and realize that many people live their own lives most of which are very different than yours.

People can learn, change, and live unique and meaningful lives. :)

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[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

No logic…unless you use the language it’s written in. You’re only looking at it from your perspective and saying it’s ugly and makes no sense. Because the language, to you makes no sense because you haven’t learned it.

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[–] zagaberoo@beehaw.org 9 points 10 months ago

It's the character for 'correct', which doesn't really explain much. Best I can figure it's just that it's a common character with five strokes in a satisfying right-down-right-down-right order.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I do the middle one but start with 4 dots, then connect those dots with lines, then do 2 lines crossing in the middle. it gives you 10 in a small space. So in the pictures there it would be 3, 5, 7, 8, 9.

[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

That sounds really efficient.

[–] Vytle@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thought this was Loss for a second

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago

I downvoted instinctively.

[–] ParabolicMotion@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I just feel like the figure on the right should have each unit be the same length. Why should four be denoted with a shorter length?

[–] Philippe23@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago

In france I lften see both the middle and left ones.

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