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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

This isn't true of anyone I've ever known, and i believe it isn't true for the majority of Americans. I believe it's a loudly vocal minority who get angry at people speaking other languages or barely speaking English

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

Yes, but this is the Fediverse, so Americabad

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dear sir/madam, this is a meme.

Exaggeration for comedic effect is not a crime.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

lmfao evidently a meme that makes people very angry. 15+ downvotes. fuckin americans man. you guys truly fucking hate each other. good job! great culture, just the best stuff... totally worth fighting for, and definitely worth inflicting on the rest of the world, buncha bitches

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

I don't understand your comment. What is the fighting happening here that you're mocking?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

"inflicting" Let's not pretend your entire life isn't wrapped up in American merchandise, food, and media. And no one forced it on you

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It's pretty hard to learn another language as an American unless you're able to travel to a place where that is used. I wasn't even allowed to take a foreign language class when I was in high school because I scored too poorly on English in grade school (from not doing homework, not because of aptitude). I haven't really had a need for it in my adult life either other than like 3 times where I had Spanish speaking customers when I worked at in retail and we still managed to overcome the language barrier.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't get the downvotes here. Learning a language is not easy without immersion. Yes you can bang through literature and even multiple courses... but without frequent use our brains simply lose the connection. Neurons that fire together wire together. This goes doubly for speech.

Many Americans (most?) are taught a second language in school but the lack of places to use it sees this education go to waste. The US is a large country with pockets of ethnic groups throughout - but as far as immersion with another language goes... it is sorely lacking.

It's unfortunate but a reality.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a lot about motivation. I'm sure many people have tried to learn a language, maybe on Duolingo or somewhere else. But as the initial excitement wears off, they give up. And that's normal, that's how most of us are built. You can't beat brain chemistry with sweet arguments that "it's good to know another language." There needs to be a strong incentive from the outside, like school when the second language is mandatory, or life in another country with no access to a community that speaks your language. With the internet, that's nearly impossible nowadays. There are a lot of expats who never assimilate in countries like Germany because in places like Berlin English will do. So I totally understand people from the US, who have limited access to other languages and cultures, plus whenever they go people speak English.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah... this is incredibly dated.

I went to high school 20 years ago and it was mandatory to take at least 2 years of another language. My school was extra so they have 4 years available of Spanish/French/German/Japanese/Mandarin. That wasn't case at every school in our district but they all had Spanish and French.

This was public school.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I did it in school in rural Ohio before the internet and with very few resources available. Basically anyone can do it. You don't need immersion. Is it helpful? Yes. Is it necessary? No. Look at how many people live 40+ years in a country and never learn the language; immersion alone does almost nothing.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

I disagree with this and its my experience that there are assholes speaking every language and that the English speaking world tends to be the most understanding when it comes to second language speakers using improper words and/or grammar.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Personally, and anecdotally, I've found English speakers to be quite forgiving of poor English — that is, they usually make an effort to try and understand someone with broken English, and they don't usually point out poor grammar (though, that could be because the majority of English speakers don't have the best grammar to begin with 😉). Especially when one compares them with some other cultures, eg the French.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This feels like French propaganda to deflect from how rude they tend to be if you don't speak French

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I speak French until they have enough of me butchering their language with my Jersey (New) accent. Bon Joor, je voo le pan. They beg me to stop and I keep going. Jaim vo d-nay. Mare C bo coo. They thank me for leaving.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even if you speak French or at least try to they go like: huh?!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Lean into it. Channel your inner Peggy Hill and repeat this phrase: Jay parlay fran-says tray bee-in. Jay-tude on lay-cole quart ons.

They will beg you to switch back to English

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I'm an American who speaks decent German. I've gotten this flak traveling in non-German speaking Europe - Stupid American only speaking English attitude thrown my way. Mother fucker I'm in France, a German would also be using English here. To some people the only way to not be "that American" is to speak all the languages.

On the flip side, I've had a few Germans ask me why I bothered learning their language when I could just use English.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Moin Brudi, finde ich ziemlich nett von dir das du dir unsere Sprache antust.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Do you people just invent these problems because you hate Americans? Like... How do you come up with this garbage propaganda? Are you just reposting from tankie run bots designed to sow discord?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To be fair, 95% of people on that continent speak one or more of three languages. And those three languages (English, Spanish, French) are among the most widely spoken languages in the world.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

MAAAAAAAHAAAA THE FRENCH

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

This is nonsense. Only English teachers do this.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

The US has an insane portion of foreign workforce with non-native speakers being at the head of many fortune top 100 companies. This is unheard of for Europe.

US is probably the most linguistically and culturally accommodating place on the planet. The heck are you talking about, OP?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Americans when someone doesn't speak English good enough: "They're English is bad!!!"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Americans can't even speak english properly....

Basically the equivalent to learning english in the slums.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

truly ironic given some of your accents

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I speak the same English that they used in the Bible.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Homie I cant afford to get mad at bad english. I live in LA. I'm lucky if they speak English at all.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

well, I think enough people from Latin America have immigrated that they have now skewed that metric... I read somewhere that, basically any other country with such a large population of bilingual individuals, declared the second language official

That'll never happen in Murica of course

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is because the US does not have an official language at the federal level. Some states do though, and some only English is the official language but some do recognize Spanish and native American languages as official languages. Of course it would be nice to have a more formal approach but I was very surprised of how much stuff is written in more than one language and for Spanish in specific I think you have a very high chance of finding some employee that speaks it or they try to translate. At least in the couple of places that I have being which I admit is a small sample size

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The only language that would be useful to know where I live would be Spanish.

And I fucking hate the Spanish language.

Edit: I should say I don't hate Spanish speaking people. Just the language. I honestly can't even say why I hate it I just do.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (12 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

There is this youtube video with Jack Black and some others playing D&D. When they introduce their characters, they go on about how they are a polyglot like it is some amazing feat. This when every character in D&D knows at least common and some other language.

Anyway, that's just Tuesday in Europe.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also other Americans when given the chance: Grassyes.

[–] Worx 8 points 1 year ago

In the UK we say "grassy arse" because it sounds like "arse", which is a rude word

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean I just get turned on.

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