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[–] TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world 158 points 10 months ago (1 children)

At this rate my owned outright copy of Adobe that requires no internet access, with hacks, will become a generational heirloom I can pass down to descendants with immersurable value.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 28 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Don't pirate anything you use professionally. You are just begging for a lawsuit and to be treated as radioactive in the industry.

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 105 points 10 months ago (14 children)

owned outright copy

It's not piracy if you bought the software and own a permanent license to it.

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[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And if your company let the licenses expire a month ago, do you refuse to do your job?

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 53 points 10 months ago (4 children)

If the software doesn't run?

Yeah. You do. Because unless your company sends you a written email saying to go grab this off the pirate bay, then it is your ass on the line, not theirs.

And if they DO send that email? Document everything and run away as fast as you can.

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[–] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 125 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Holy Shitballs:

Sam Santala

Jun 5

Also, hilarious that I can't even get ahold of your support chat to question this unless I agree to these terms beforehand.

Jun 5

I can't even uninstall Photoshop unless I agree to these terms?? Are you fucking kidding me??

Jun 5

Realising I also need to agree to the terms if I want to sign in and cancel my subscription

16h

Can someone there give me an email for someone who can cancel my subscription without having to sign in and agree to these new terms first?

[–] magiccupcake@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I think at that point I'd mail a certified letter and cancel whatever card it's on.

That probably wouldn't work but one can dream.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean it probably would. Their only recourse would be to sue you.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago

And if you have a decent credit card, and a record of your attempts to contact them and cancel your subscription, they’ll likely take your side if you back charge then block them from your card.

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[–] tabular@lemmy.world 77 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Same choice as normal: whine about and then tolerate a change you don't want in proprietary software rather than spend time learning to use a software-freedom-respecting alternative.

"But my workflow".

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hey, a lot of people have deadlines and can’t just drop everything to spend a week learning if GIMP even meets their needs when Adobe is knocking their door down with this EULA change right the fuck now

And Adobe is counting on that. They knew this was bullshit and people would be made which is why the dropped it with (what seems like) zero warning

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No hard feelings towards people who couldn't, or didn't, see this sort of thing coming.

[–] MalachaiConstant@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I saw this coming and switched to GIMP and Inkscape. It's been a pain but I've managed. I'm just the IT guy though, and I would be laughed out of the room if I suggested our marketing team consider making the same switch.

It's not a matter of seeing it coming. They just don't care.

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[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 69 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The question I'd like to ask them is WHY they want to get involved in Content Moderation. They make a toolset, nothing more, so why do they care what someone is using the tools for? What could they possibly get out of this that makes it worth the time or expense?

[–] Jordan117@lemmy.world 46 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I imagine it's because of the generative AI stuff. If they're using their servers to generate, they're going to be responsible for what it puts out, even if it's just responding to user prompts.

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[–] exanime@lemmy.today 30 points 10 months ago

Feeding some other crappy AI

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[–] art@lemmy.world 62 points 10 months ago (12 children)

People complain now, but they'll renew their subscription. It's the same unhealthy relationship people have with Windows.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 52 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It is my understanding a lot of people maintain their unhealthy relationship with Windows as a prerequisite for keeping their unhealthy relationship with Adobe.

To be fair, the FOSS community in this area has categorically failed. GIMP's mission statement is 1. be hateful to use and 2. be capable of editing photographs I guess. Inkscape can't support CMYK colorspaces so just forget it if there's an outside chance if it's going to be printed, Krita can't draw a circle, Pinta crashes every other thing...hell I wonder if Adobe pays the GIMP team to keep it unusable.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

GIMP's mission statement is 1. be hateful to use

It hurts to say but you're right. I was like "can't you remap the right mouse button to another tool? Everything in the context menu is in the Menu bar regardless" and they responded with "nope, design philosophy"

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 20 points 10 months ago (3 children)

GIMP literally sucks on purpose. Anyone waiting around for GIMP to do what Blender did and suddenly become usable has missed the point.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

yep. I feel like FOSS projects are always made by code monkeys who have no design sensibilities and designers do not touch any of these. a lot of them are not only unusable but uninstallable by the majority of the intended user base. whenever i find something i want to use it's like:

—cool software. can i double click on an icon and have it ready to use?
—umm, don't be ridiculous, normie. you gotta self host it and use the command line to enter some arcane incantations obviously. alternatively you can use these other methods you've never heard of. if you need any help you can refer to their respective indecipherable documentation.
—ok I'll keep what i have until i find something that's made for regular human beings, thanks.

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[–] Aux@lemmy.world 57 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ok, time to notify our design team not to use any Adobe products anymore and notify the commercial team to stop paying for licences.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

What can you replace Adobe with? Serious question. I despise Adobe, but every alternative I've tried throughout the years either cannot do the job or ends up disappearing.

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[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 56 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Canceled my Adobe account in 2018 and they just keep on making my decision a better and better one. Thanks, Adobe!

[–] asbestos@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago (8 children)

I bought the Affinity Suite which has been great for me. Sadly they don't have a Linux version, which is what I'm moving to. Krita covers some other of Photoshop's features as well. And people who say Gimp is a Photoshop alternative are crazy. Gimp uses destructive editing which is clown level in image editing and makes it completely useless imo. But supposedly non-destructive editing is coming.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I really wish I didn't hate gimp but I very much do.

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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 49 points 10 months ago

Gee, yet another reason why mine is a Corel shop and we don't use Adobe for anything.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 48 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is 100% because they are rolling out more AI features and they want the government to ban all open source competition because they aren't "safe".

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[–] PenisWenisGenius 38 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Imagine getting banned from all of adobe just for drawing a dick with the brush tool in their expensive image editor.

[–] whoisthedoktor@lemmy.wtf 35 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Those reasons being stealing people's work for AI garbage.

Fuck Photoshop. Use Gimp and/or Krita.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Unfortunately, neither are good replacements for professional work.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I use Krita professionally on a daily basis, it's fantastic. It has some rough edges but absolutely nothing that prevents you from having work done. It also beats the Adobe suite hands down when it comes to ergonomy, and the performance with big files is really good (I work on formats up to 14k*7k for print, no issues).

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[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Tell me you don't want money from NSFW artists without telling me.

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[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 31 points 10 months ago

Hard fucking pass.

[–] manucode@infosec.pub 20 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Isn't Photoshop by a lot of big corporations. Why would they sign up to that? Or do they get an exemption that isn't available to private individuals?

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 18 points 10 months ago

Sufficiently large orgs probably will be eligible for exemptions under the theory that they are agreeing ahead of time.

But also? The Adobe suite are just leagues better than anything else in that space. Smaller companies with smaller contracts can get away with, frankly, lesser software. But at scale? You need stuff like the "Oh shit, we should stop calling it AI" plugins. And workflows matter a lot when the vast majority of your applicant pool have been using Adobe software for literally decades.

A decent number of the tech youtubers have done "We tried to not use Premier for one week" style videos. And they usually end up coming out with "I guess we could maybe make it work but it just isn't worth it"

Much like with "this is the year of gaming for linux", it is going to need massive amounts of grass roots effort to actually focus on UI/UX over "We don't need that because we are smarter" bullshit. And, eventually, it will be good enough for influencers/taste-makers to give it a chance.

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[–] febra@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'll upload a shitton of nudes to adobe cloud and report them so a poor bloke has to review those

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[–] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 16 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Wild. My old place we relied on this despite me urging us to use Figma/Sketch and Blender (amazing for 2D art). Naturally logistics factored into it as our clients relied on Adobe as well, but there were plenty of projects that didn’t need it.

We also had the dumbest guidelines to ensure no leaks. I would routinely get app requests refused despite the fact their source was right there on GitHub.

So now what are they gonna do? Because if they use Adobe, they can no longer ensure that a clients work won’t hit the net. May not seem like much for small indie projects but if we snagged the next GTA or Valorant, you bet that would attract some serious lookiloos.

Not sure if a client would find “it wasn’t us it was Adobe” all that comforting!

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[–] thefrankring@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I recieved today an email from Affinity saying that their whole suite of softwares is 50% off.

I'm assuming more people will be migrating to either Affinity or FOSS.

I currently use FOSS but I also really love Affinity. Especially since it's a perpetual/lifetime license.

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