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[–] [email protected] 91 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's more opportunity to declare fraud. Biden postal service (crippled by Trump) not delivering votes in conservative counties, etc.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I figured it was an attempt to get votes in before he's declared ineligible. So when he's ousted, he'll say "I got all these votes, count em! I should win but they're cheating and saying I can't run! FRAUD!"

[–] [email protected] 64 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Trump isn't going to be declared ineligible. He meets the constitutional requirements for being President. Unfortunately. We are just going to have to win the election by giving Biden more votes. And they're going to declare fraud whether he loses by 1 vote or 10 million, so let's try to just absolutely destroy them at the ballot. We can't just beat him, we have to send a message that Trump and his sycophants will never have a path to election again.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

His candidacy is clouded, he engaged in insurrection on January 6 and Congress can't requalify him for office. They and only they have the authority but they don't have the votes. Even if he loses he's going to try to seize power. He only has to seize it if he loses. They are past caring about the election and you can tell because they have already told us that win or lose they intend to spill American blood.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Congress can't requalify him for office. They and only they have the authority but they don't have the votes.

I don't disagree with the rest, but this part I just have no idea what part of the constitution you are referencing. He's 35+, a natural born citizen, and a 10+ year resident. That's it. He's qualified because beyond that the founding fathers foolishly had faith that the citizenry would hold politicians to account. I guess to their credit that worked for a couple hundred years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Section 3 14th Amendment to the US Constitution.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Unfortunately, it is left to Congress to declare an insurrection, and that section is of little use to us. That was adjudicated with several states trying to remove him from the ballot. So he doesn't need to be requalified.

I question that decision, particularly given the current extremely partisan court. But unfortunately our constitution gives us no recourse save impeachment or passing explicit laws that are within the framework of the constitution, but bar Trump.

The votes aren't there for either so the law holds that the supreme court's interpretation that Congress must vote to declare an act to be insurrection is currently the law of the land.

We have a tremendous fight ahead of us to undo all the harm Trump caused in his first term. I'm talking perhaps decades.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

given the current extremely partisan court

Note that on this particular matter, they ruled unanimously that Trump couldn't be removed from ballots.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The Section 3 clause absolutely has not been adjudicated. Nice try.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Supreme Court said he can't be removed from the ballot based on that. Not sure what you call that, but the clause does us no good in preventing him from being elected.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

The Supreme court's reply: Section 5 14th Amendment

They said only the national legislature can make this determination, based on section 5.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

The problem is that 'everyone knows' but Congress did not hold designate him as doing so. While Colorado declared he did, the Supreme Court unanimously ruled that section 5 of the 14th amendment says it's up to congress, not courts (neither state or federal) to make the determination.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He would be the first felon as president. I do not want that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

We can only express that with a vote. I mean besides shouting it from the rooftops, but the only concrete way is with a vote.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Lmao don't you understand by now, there is no scenario where the GOP and its Almighty Head Cancerous Tumor do not scream fraud

[–] [email protected] 55 points 9 months ago (1 children)

hes got a reason. this guy doesnt flip on things like this unless its to his benefit

something tells me some of his polls arent going as well as expected

[–] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago (1 children)

lets see if my father in law changes his opinion on mail in voting now, conveniently

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

Trump is ONLY doing this because Mail in Voting is RIPE with DEMOCRAT FRAUD and the ONLY way to Win is to Fight Fraud with Fraud! And also THE ELECTION IS RIGGED but ONLY by Democrats even though we're trying to fight Fraud with our OWN Fraud!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

They now want to completely shut down in person voting as they have already done in large metro areas. Election interference as much as possible! It’s the Republican way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (4 children)

So what? Y'all been saying it's just fine for years!

[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes, we're not the hypocrites. Congratulations on figuring that out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago

Huh, weird. Conservatives used to blow a fuse when people would "flip flop". But I guess it's fine when lord trump does it.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago (2 children)

We aren't upset he is embracing mail-in voting, you dumbass. We are laughing at how he has flipped on an issue he was so adamant about.

We have been saying it's fine for years, and we are still saying it is fine. Trump is the one who was saying how rigged and awful and terrible mail-in voting was (except for in the states that voted for him and had mail-in voting).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

BTW..... Dogs don't lay eggs. You might benefit from a remedial biology class. Haha

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You've misread it. It says "Dog, slay eggs!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Yes, your reading comprehension is lame.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You mean like Bidens border policy? Ha. When ya got nothing, just attack people.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

That's a strange thing to say from someone who keeps attacking people...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You people really have trouble with reading comprehension. It's fascinating

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

That retort is a bit lame. Try again.