I think it's a bit unfair they call it just "paint" when it was merely cornstarch that would wash off by itself.
There's a huge difference in the degree of vandalism if it's something that wash off by itself.
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How and what will these crazy activists vandalize next? Shining a flashlight at the pyramids?!
stealing the moon
TO RAISE AWARENESS, WE WILL BE TURNING OFF THE SUN TONIGHT AT (checks weather.gov) 8:02PM
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I'm sorry, I think you mean "blasting the pyramids with photons."
photons traveling at the speed of light too! that's quite dangerous
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This is by design and most people fell for it entirely. Even the second highest content in this thread is carrying water for big oil.
It's possible. And I think it's likely. That the activists wanted this exact news cycle, where they falsely report that there is damage, gaining widespread coverage, and drawing attention their way, only for people to later learn that it was temporary and grow to respect the act.
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Media uses language like this on purpose, most of their copy comes from single-sources and everyone on every news station is repeating the same rhetoric. They did this with the soup/painting incident as well, making it seem like the protestors ruined priceless artifacts instead of spilling harmless food products on a sheet of plexiglass.
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All that hand wringing over what kind of protest should be ok, you guys are exhausting. The kind of protest doesn't make a difference at all. A lot of people will say it's unacceptable no matter what. I'll even admit sometimes a protest misses the mark, but I'm still glad they did it.
The kids are alright
My only opinion is that if the protest dosen't hurt the owner class, then it's not going to do anything anyway.
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But Flying Squid said it was irreparably damaged with crack seepage or whatever
Why are you lying about what I said?
Is this an example of positivity and productivity, the things you claimed I lacked?
It's stone. Stone is full of cracks. It will get into those cracks and not wash off.
Interesting that you aren't linking to where I said that. Perhaps it was because I said it in the other thread yesterday and not today after I read this article and found out I was wrong?
Is it that you're being highly dishonest or is that just my negativity and lack of productivity that made me lack psychic powers?
You're just arguing from a petty and pedantic place while half the globe is frying.
Maybe just shut up. You wont' regret it, you won't get stuck ruminating on all these internet strangers who don't like you, you can get on with your day and let people who care more about our world than old rocks get on with our day as well.
You might read the order of comments here and notice that people are attacking me, not the other way around. You included, I may add.
okay so you're a victim, maybe someone will wear a colored ribbon for you, changes nothing about my suggestion.
I never claimed to be a victim. You, however, claimed I was the one arguing with people when it's actually people arguing with me.
It's not my fault you said something that was false.
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You may have assumed I was talking about this thread, and not making a reference to what you went on about for an hour arguing with everyone abiut yesterday (edit: or 2 days ago I guess). But I didn't say that, and you were wrong.
Ah, so you were just ignoring the fact that I admitted I was wrong in this thread and were just going to pretend that never happened. Which is very productive and not at all negative or tearing me down.
I realize that admitting you are wrong is the worst possible thing you can do on the internet, but I still admitted I was wrong about there being any permanent damage. And was relieved about it.
So you said it yesterday without any proof or knowledge? Why would you make such a statement when you come from a place of ignorance? Would you have come here and declared you've reversed your position and apologized to the people you zealously argued against from said place of ignorance or did you only do so when called out?
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This group's activism is so tone-deaf that I'm starting to think this is actually the oil companies pretending to be terrible activists.
No matter what the form of protest, you will think it's tone-deaf because you have been trained to. The oil industry spends a lot of money spamming comments like yours because they know eventually, fools will start parroting it for them.
What's your reasoning? Do you think it's ineffective even though it's made world wide news. Is non destructive play vandalism of old rocks somehow too extreme of a response for the clear destruction of our environment?
It's hard not to be part of the problem, since over consumption habits are difficulty to get rid of when no else is. I won't fault you for that. Protests aren't everyone's thing, whatever.
At the minimum though, you could just not be a mouthpiece for the ones who are causing said problem. Seriously, like if you've ever given a shit about stone hedge before.
No matter what the form of protest, you will think it's tone-deaf because you have been trained to.
MMmmmmmmmmm No. It's actually tone-deaf. And assholish. And idiotic. And stupid. And I hate them Sam I Am.
Seriously, they are more damaging to actual protest movements than Big Oil. I'm seconding the astroturfing theory. Their methods are not just ridiculous, they're offensive on multiple levels, and here's the part where I disagree with my younger more smartical friends: IT DOES NOT HELP IN ANY WAY. "Oh but it gets the message out there!" And what message would that be? If the message is "stupid idiots deface art or humanity for shiggles" then sure, I'd agree. Otherwise it's just more headwinds to fight against, a self-own for - well, we don't really know why other than they think it's great to be filming themselves.
The message is "we are heading towards complete climate collapse and The Powers That Be are acting like things are fine".
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Bold move to say "I'm starting to think" then parrot the most repeated comment on the subject
I get the epic of marking climate change as a general human issue by doing stonehenge. Doing, let's say, the wall street bulls statue or smth in London marking climate change as a capital issue would have been smarter thou
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That is what I was hoping to hear.
And I still say doing a stunt that even makes it look like you've done some real damage to Stonehenge right in the middle of a religious festival does not make you look like the good guys. People in another thread said it spread awareness. Who isn't aware? I'm fully aware of climate change and there's fuck all I can do about it.
But at least it was not permanent vandalism.
- Who isn’t aware?
Like half of the world is in denial.
How would you spread awareness that translates to action?
Denial is not lack of awareness.
I don't know exactly how I would spread awareness, but I know exactly how I wouldn't: Making people think I damaged a beloved ancient monument during a religious festival... a religious festival, as someone else pointed out, for people who venerate nature.
How about, as an idea, paint bombing Shell Oil headquarters?
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Clearly, a good portion of the population isn't aware of how serious the situation is, it's still an election issue.
If the right level of awareness was reached, having any kind of oil money around you would be a political death sentence. Instead, Trump has public bribe meetings with oil execs and his base grows because of it.
Ok, now please explain, since no one else will, why pissing people off is a good way to achieve that.
Have you ever convinced anyone of something by pissing them off?
They said the same about woman and gay rights movements. You can't make noise, block traffic or even talk about it without pissing people off.
Not to mention most of the anger is manufactured by oil execs and then enabled by people with little to no proper reasoning skills.
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Why are you more angry about a stunt that did no damage than you are about actual ecological damage done by oil companies for profit?
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Not only did they decide to do it in the middle of a religious festival, they did it in the middle of a festival that’s part of a religion that worships nature.
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Well good! It'd be fucking travesty to permanently damage a world heritage
Yes and climate change, also caused by people, is going to more than damage a whole shitload of world heritage.
Oh shit, was it that easy to fix climate change? To vandalize heritage sites was all it took?
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I wonder when these protests will turn into actual oil executive assassinations like in Ministry for the Future. We're already rushing our way into a heat wave mass death event.
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