Shit, y’all could’ve saved a ton of time and effort if you’d have just asked me; I’ve been saying this for years. And it’s only worse when you’re the one speck of blue in a red sea.
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It's one of those things that are obvious to reasonable people but it's nice to have proof for when you run into unreasonable people who deny it.
i love getting scolded about voting when even if I personally managed to pull off a miracle and convert one thousand people to vote for biden, it wouldn't make a bit of difference.
jUsT VoTE!!1!!11
As if voting for president makes any difference, when it’s the electoral college who makes the final decision. And they’ve proven in the past that they’ll do what they want.
The sudden spike coincides with the Citizens United and SpeechNow SCOTUS decisions.
It's been trending for some time. Chomsky's "Manufacturing Consent" describes a host of national policies that were intensely disliked when they began and only became normalized after years of mass media manipulation.
The Drug Wars, opposition to the Civil Rights and Women's Rights movements, most of our wars after WW2, our large scale claw backs of social spending and ballooning security state budgets, our habit of subsidizing sports stadiums and toxic waste sites, etc - all need regular continued media investment for fear of a popular turn.
SCOTUS widened the spigots for political spending in pursuit of these goals. But it's not like the WSJ or AM Radio or the cable news companies weren't already flush with propaganda before the CU decision. It's not like CU was necessary for the volume of social media manipulation, either.
I understand that this is a doomer sub but man. When you manage to get away from all this social media bullshit for a while then try to poke your head in you realize how relentlessly negative it is at all times, because nobody wants to actually do anything about anything, including go the fuck outside and forget about it for a bit, and everyone with any ambitions of sanity leaves.
Could we start discussing credible strategies to reverse this situation, or at least improve that number somehow? Absolutely the fuck not, never, ever ever. The shit is very literally crazy, I don't know what I was trying to expect.
But this post is so much like the other posts on the rest of the site it took me a minute to notice where I was. Might as well stop acting like this is just one community, it's everything.
Could we start discussing credible strategies to reverse this situation, or at least improve that number somehow?
I say this constantly, and everyone nods along happily when I say it, but almost nobody does it. What is it? It's getting involved in your local politics.
The federal government, the US congress and senate and all the executive branch.... they're all supported and propped up by powerful institutions within the states that got powerful because nobody paid it any attention and still don't. People get elected to represent us who run without opposition and then we wonder why nothing seems to change.
If you get involved with knowing who in your neighborhood, your school district, your city, your county and your state represent you, and then challenging that representation in any way you can, from actually running all the way to just getting on those horrible neighborhood forums and holding yard-sales to get to know your neighbors.
GET TO KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORS. Jesus, this country is terrible about this one huge thing that could change everything, which is reforming communities. We scream and cry how bad the world is and make ZERO effort to make it better by forming support systems within neighborhoods. I mean fuck, most suburban neighborhoods have nothing else to do, might as well have some bake sales and yard sales and jogging groups and other things to help get to know each other, right? Or has all our cynicism completely overshadowed any possible chance of ever forming friendly communities in the US?
Is this the ~~20~~ year old study being pulled out for 2024 election cycle?
PS 10 years
Do you think it's gotten any better?
Quality of life getting better, people around me buying houses and having children...
Not
careful lol, it’s 10 years old. sep 18, 2014. not sure if that was a typo or an exaggeration but it is technically a mistruth.
Duh? We know already know this. Their main concern is staying in office for as long as possible and see how badly they can fuck up the country.
Duh? We know already know this. Their main concern is staying in office for as long as possible and see how ~~badly they can fuck up the country.~~ much they can grow their own bank accounts.
The destruction of the country is just a byproduct of their greed. :(
This study is bunk.
Researchers critiquing the paper found that middle-income Americans and rich Americans actually agree on an overwhelming majority of topics. Out of the 1,779 bills in the Gilens/Page data set, majorities of the rich and middle class agree on 1,594; there are 616 bills both groups oppose and 978 bills both groups favor. That means the groups agree on 89.6 percent of bills.
That leaves only 185 bills on which the rich and the middle class disagree, and even there the disagreements are small. On average, the groups' opinion gaps on the 185 bills is 10.9 percentage points; so, say, 45 percent of the middle class might support a bill while 55.9 percent of the rich support it.
Bashir and Branham/Soroka/Wlezien find that on these 185 bills, the rich got their preferred outcome 53 percent of the time and the middle class got what they wanted 47 percent of the time.
https://www.vox.com/2016/5/9/11502464/gilens-page-oligarchy-study
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I think the fact that there are ~40% of bills that both rich and middle class Americans oppose is pretty solid proof that congress doesn’t give a shit about what American citizens want them to pass… or am i misinterpreting this?
Also, why the focus on rich and middle class? Is the vast majority of america not "lower"/working class? Edit: it seems like the entire conclusion of the study is based on the influence that money has in politics.
One thing that does have an influence? Money. While the opinions of the bottom 90% of income earners in America have a “statistically non-significant impact,” economic elites, business interests, and people who can afford lobbyists still carry major influence.
Of course if you focus only on people with money then you will come up with a conflicting result... so yeah. I also feel like I am missing something here.
the rich got their preferred outcome 53 percent of the time and the middle class got what they wanted 47 percent of the time.
Okay, but there's a large third traunch of voters you're neglecting
Each congressperson represents too many people.
We need to add seats to the House of Representatives.
Quintuple the number of seats in each district, use Sequential Proportional Approval Voting to elect the five members of each district.
Abolish the electoral college
And FPTP
The fact that I'm 100% confident this will never happen, and absolutely needs to, convinced me to leave the states.
And a lot of this comes from not fucking voting. I seriously wonder how things would be if voting was mandatory and everyone was given appropriate time off to do it.
In Germany we only vote on Sundays and it's super easy, barely an inconvenience. We're still lucky when more than two thirds vote. People are in general are lazy and stupid.
Unfortunately, I think it's exactly the opposite. They don't have to do anything that people want to vote for them anyway.
as long as they vote along party lines more than according to what the politicians do, number of votes does not improve this.
Sorry but mandatory vote solves nothing. You'll still have a lot of people alienate about politics and now they had to vote and they'll make their choices like a popularity contest.
You can vote for whichever politician you like, so long as it's AIPAC approved.
Yeah, it's not like the public pays particularly well unlike bribery, I mean lobbying groups.
If we replaced first past the post voting with a more representative electoral system, we could inject competition into the electoral process.
Then maybe they would have to care.
Representatives chosen by sortition like jury duty would be more representative compared to what we currently have, and that's such a wild thought.
In the last 5 years alone, the 200 most politically active companies in the U.S. spent $5.8 billion influencing our government with lobbying and campaign contributions. Those same companies got $4.4 trillion in taxpayer support — earning a return of 750 times their investment.
An no one bats an eye... you should be rioting in the streets
They don't like it if you tell them that you hope their family dies in a bloody revolution because they are were too cowardly to vote to convict Trump, though.
so i've heard
yeah no fucking shit, can we stop pretending this system is effective or worth defending?
A Congressman is a hog! You must take a stick and hit him on the snout!
- Henry Adams, 1906