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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 87 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

This is Alfred slander. He's the only person on Earth who can slap sense into fucking Batman, not some old fuck who should have been in hospice care two years ago

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 9 months ago

He's the only aged gentleman who will headbutt supes in the nose.

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[–] abracaDavid@lemmy.today 71 points 9 months ago (20 children)

Terrible analogy.

This is the goddamn DNC's fault. They are allergic to supporting anyone that's not an old school establishment Democrat.

Give us a suitable candidate. Biden is too old and everyone knows it.

Give us someone that is actually progressive and that actually wants to help the American people. We have a few very obvious issues that neither of our geriatric overlords are addressing.

  1. ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE. This is the most important one. Just do something. Anything. Nothing is being done and it's getting hotter every year.

  2. Lower the cost of living. Rent is out of control. Food costs are out of control. It's hard to live right now. Protect US citizens from corporate greed.

  3. Fix the real estate market. Most of us will never be able to own a house because several corporations have been allowed to run amok. Make it so the average person can buy a house.

  4. Healthcare for all. It's not complicated.

  5. Stop the genocide.

Put someone forward with this obvious and simple platform, and I promise they win.

We are not married to Biden. Get us someone younger. Why is this so hard?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 57 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
  1. During Biden’s first term, we’ve made several of the biggest steps toward addressing climate change, ever
  2. Biden has made huge steps, despite congressional opposition, in making education and healthcare more affordable
  3. The real estate and rental prices are local, and some of us live where our local politicians are at least trying

Yeah, Biden has done a lot of really good shit. The president only has so much power.

[–] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Fucking thank you. I agree with every single one of these things

Wanna run for president? I'll vote

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[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 44 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The fact the office of the president has to be likened to Alfred to make sense is quite underhanded and indicative of a greater issue.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago (4 children)

And yet the most pressing issue right now is Alfred vs. Joker. It's one or the other unless something drastic changes. So pick Alfred and then work on the next problem.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago

The 'next' problems are concurrent, unfortunately.

The GOP may very well wind up with a veto proof Congress at this rate and it will all be for nought.

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[–] 4am@lemm.ee 32 points 9 months ago (6 children)

No, but you DO replace him.

[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yup. But you deal with one problem at a time. Right now we have a real Joker problem with immediate and dire consequences.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Following your analogy to its logical conclusion, we're about to send Alfred out to take care of this Joker problem. It seems like we should find a Batman instead, or at least a Robin, before Alfred gets his ass handed to him.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Bro have you seen Alfred fight?

The problem would not be Alfred losing, it would be stopping him from plugging the Joker like an out of charge phone because he has made very clear that he does not share Batman's distaste for firearms.

This whole discussion is itself a metaphor, the people who are the most worried are the ones who understand the least about who they're talking about.

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[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (18 children)

The false dichotomy fallacy here is that we don't have to choose either. There is still time to pick Robin. Younger; more charismatic; still moral.

[–] fukurthumz420@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (5 children)
[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Whitmer. Shapiro. Newsom, even.

Before anyone tries to claim polls show they wouldn't do better than Biden against Trump let me remind people that this is without them having the endorsement of the dnc or the inevitable viral media attention they'd receive from endorsements from Obama or Biden himself. They'd surge overnight.

You know who isn't surging? Biden. He's been steadily declining in every single data-point, and the debate didn't help.

So you know what 70% of voters have a problem with? How old the two current candidates are.

Give them what they want. Give Americans new exciting shit to vote for. This is the country that watches the Kardashians and American Idol for christ sake.

[–] sushibowl@feddit.nl 15 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Maybe. On the other hand, changing out your candidate after one debate doesn't inspire much confidence. And you lose the advantage a sitting president usually has in elections.

A new candidate might indeed do better, but the DNC is risk averse as hell. I don't see them having the balls to make a move like this.

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago (3 children)
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[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 24 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Who cares if they die day 1 in office? It's about which party is in charge.

[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (7 children)

It's about which person is not going to have and abuse his Presidential power.

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[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago (17 children)

Ok yeah, but that doesn't mean we need to choose Alfred to do the actual fighting against the Joker. Instead, it's perfectly OK to say "Hey Alfred, let Batman handle the Joker, you watch and provide advice if you're needed."

[–] fukurthumz420@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

batman's not running for president. time to face reality.

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[–] enleeten@discuss.online 23 points 9 months ago

It's unfair to compare Trump to the Joker. The Joker is a strategic and tactical and logistical genius, he didn't inherit his position from "Papa Clown Show" and pretend to be good at what he does.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Except the Dems convention hasn't happened yet and there's still plenty of time to hire Batman a great butler who's still capable...

Joker only has a chance if we run Alfred and he loses. We don't have to run Alfred.

So if you want to do everything you can to stop Joker, Alfred needs to step aside and endorse his replacement

[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 months ago (15 children)

Who is that going to be though? There's no one. Traditionally it might be the current VP, but everyone hates Kamala because she's shit. There is no one else, it's Biden or my dumb ass cat, at least my cat will get the 'cute and doesn't shit in the plants' vote. Unbelievably my cat would still lose to a rapist and felon.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (11 children)

Who is that going to be though?

I used to type a lot for these, but they constantly come up.

So at this point: AOC

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[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you're already making these comparisons, Biden has already lost. Get your guns, beans, and gasoline. Good luck.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Oh so no one was calling Biden senile and incompetent before...nope...just now.... 🤡🤡🤡🤡

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Biden wasn't yet going on live TV and having the only comprehensible thing he said during the whole event be that he beat medicare.

Edit: downvote it all you want. This is the most important election I've lived to see, and the democrats have collectively decided that our best chance of winning and stopping a full tilt descent into open Christian fascism lies with a guy who would have been sent home from being a Wal-Mart greeter. I think that's completely insane. We can and should do better than Ruth Bader Ginsburging the election.

Yes, there's a legitimate chance that Trump could die or become disabled in any of the same ways Biden realistically could between now and November; stroke, heart attack, fall with various injuries, just whole ass failing to wake up, etc. BUT consider the outcome. If Trump dies, as-is, the GOP is left directionless and we probably get four more years of conservative Democrats. If Biden dies, as-is, best case is we get a Kamala Harris who has been wholly unprepared and wholly unprepared for by the DNC, and we more than likely end up with however long it takes for the Christian Fascist regime to spark a civil war or otherwise implode under its own stupid weight, probably a good deal longer than four years. And between the two of them, Biden seems a lot more frail, and I'm not just talking about the debate stage. Every appearance I've seen from Biden in the last four to six months, even in carefully managed campaign ads, he looks and sounds like hell, his speech is a lot more unclear and uneven than it used to be (I will fucking elbow drop you if you say it's his stutter. Compare Biden now to Biden twelve or even four years ago), he walks with the kind of old man shuffle that suggests he should be using a walker for his own safety. I think that Biden is at very real risk of death or disability soon, he's most likely too frail to get us across the finish line, and we're stupidly gambling the entire future of the country and the people that live in it because the Democrats love their stupid hierarchies or whatever (it's her turn!). I swear, if we descend into Christian fascism and the consequences thereof, I'm going to slap every person I meet from the DNC. I'm going to slap them until they're as fucking cooked as our country is.

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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (4 children)

They be like: your options are a shit sandwich or getting shot in the head.

When all along your options are every other food too, they just removed them from the menu.

You still should pick the shit sandwich over the shot to the head, but you should as hell be mad at both the one who would pull the trigger and the ones who left you with a shit sandwich as the viable alternative.

Eat the sandwich, remove the trigger man then go after the restaurant owners.

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[–] blazera@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (11 children)

So, this happened in the comics and show, alfred got older and passed away, bruce wayne retired as batman, he managed the batcave, and a younger protege took up the batman mantle.

I dont know what this malarkey is about thinking someone cant be too old for a job.

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[–] MiDaBa@lemmy.ml 17 points 9 months ago (3 children)

They knew in 2020 that Joe was slipping but instead of trying to solve the problem then they did nothing but cover up the obvious issues. To go with the metaphor, Alfred was a good man doing the right thing. The modern Democrat party has no Alfred. Instead they now seems to care more about their party's own power over the actual good of the country. Very few people wanted Joe in 2020 but we were told we vote him in to save democracy and then run someone better in 2024. Now here we are going through the same loop. No, if the Democratic party refuses to run a candidate that the people want then we've already lost our democracy. Our two party only system is already a joke and it allows those in power to do whatever they want with the looming threat that the other team will destroy America. I'm sorry to say but the Joker is already in charge.

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[–] neoman4426@fedia.io 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Seems like such an odd comparison. Alfred Pennyworth is a certified badass, he would absolutely keep Wayne Manor and the Batcave both managed and defended until the day he dies if he wishes to.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Alfred is not a certified badass in every version of Batman. In fact, that's generally a rather recent thing.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ah, yes, Jimmy Kimmel. The voice of reason.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago

Compared to Trump, virtually anyone is the voice of reason.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (14 children)

I like how Democrats always frame this as the only two choices. They really, REALLY want to lose.

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[–] cumskin_genocide@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago

Alfred has been dead for like 5 years now. He's not coming back. Bruce has a new mansion in the city with the Bat Family.

They replaced Alfred with Bruce. We're not asking them to replace Alfred with the Joker, but with someone competent

[–] zanyllama52@infosec.pub 12 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, this analogy just stinks, as a comic book fan...

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