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[–] [email protected] 89 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The children yearn for the mines

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

Builds character and healths issues

[–] [email protected] 48 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Too young for the concept of doing work in exchange for something? No, I don’t think so. There’s no minimum age to learn how to do something, for the most part, if the interest is there.

However, those lower-wage jobs tend to be where a lot of the worker rights abuse tends to happen, and I absolutely think it’s way too young for them to realize if/when it’s happening, or to be in a position to properly defend themselves if they do. Sure, parental guidance and all, but let’s say my experience working with all kinds of parents in day camps, as a ski instructor and in elementary schools, didn’t make me very optimistic about a lot of them really being in a position to protect their children at work.

I’ve also honestly yet to really see it happening where it has 0 impact on their schooling, but that’s rather anecdotal…

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Plus it is going to most affect families too poor to speak up and children of abusive parents who would force them to work

[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is 13 to young to work? Is 65 too early to retire? Are you spending too much time on hobbies?

I want to leave this planet.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Should vulnerable members of our society be exploited?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

The vulnerable are already being exploited. Now they're thinking about the children.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I started working full time during the summer the year I turned 13. I was working for my family's company and my safety was always the most important thing.

In the current environment of the exploration of workers I feel that it is unacceptable for children to work for any company other than a family company or a small company that will not exploit them and that will protect them.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (23 children)

a small company that will not exploit them and that will protect them.

Cute that you believe this

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Small companies vary widely in their morals. The best ones might indeed protect and teach, rather than exploit, a young worker. The worst ones . . . are worse than any large company, and you can't always tell from outside which type you've got. And family companies can be just as bad as any other small company, alas.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I am sure some employees of mega corps also happy with their treatment too

The point being is that it is an exception to the general savagery of "legal persons"

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

Agreed in pricipal because family businesses are frequently how knowledge is passed from generation to generation, but family and small businesses can also exploit and not protect children and still need oversight on safety.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

~~"Are 13 year olds too young to exploit monetarily?"~~

"Are 13 year olds too young to take on the glorious privilege of earning their own money?"

Hey look, it's propaganda in action, right there on the CBC.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

left: Are they allowed to vote then?

Right: hell no!!!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

~~“Are 13 year olds too young to exploit monetarily?”~~

Is 13 too young to work? A Saskatchewan proposal has reignited debate around kids and labour

Was it hard to quote the actual headline or is it a matter of making the narrative you are attempting to push stronger?

Reading the article helps as well.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Remember, it's only bad when "The Media" does it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Keep that US bullshit out of this country!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Keep that US bullshit out of this country!

You may need to understand the American influence that caused the backlash among the WestJet mechanics with their strike, this week.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

I'm fully aware of the backlash. It's DISGUSTING. Scabs should be run out of town and forced to live destitute.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

This seems too nuanced for a simple Google search. Can you please explain. Any links would be appreciated.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

Billionaires don't work. Why should children?

Let kids focus on their studies. We need a better educated population, not one where people are trained to work mindless jobs where corporations pay you the least amount possible.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

We need a better educated populated

Conservative politics don't poll well with educated people. An educated population is the very last thing Shmoe needs

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

"labour shortage"

When adults are sick and tired of being paid peanuts to work a back breaking 40 to 50 hour job.

Corporations: So why not look to children who are too inexperienced to understand how much their labour is really worth...?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

How about having a controversial debate about how much companies, corporations and business owners should pay employees in any job in order to make it so that everyone is capable of paying to keep themselves alive, fulfilled and happy.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

Look guys Canada is doing America again

Why would these little turds NOT make daddy some mother fucking money tho?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

okay, let me ask the real question:

  • do they also get paid at the same standard(minimum wage, benefit, etc) like other worker?
  • do they also get CPP/EI contribution from employer? And can they take EI benefit when laid off?
  • do they also get to contribute to RRSP/TFSA? TFSA is after 18 currently, so they can't even save their wage compare to other adult workers.
  • when they do perform well, will they get evaluated and promoted the same way? ie, a 15 yo manager at fast food chain and paid the same wage as a manager.
[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Schooling is mandatory until 18. Any other activity has to not interfere with that. Beyond that, do what ye will.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I agree with your point about teenagers work interfering with their schooling, but that's not quite correct about the mandatory age.

It's only mandatory to 18 in New Brunswick and 17 in Manitoba.

In the rest of Canada the age is 15 to 16. (16 in Saskatchewan.

https://web.archive.org/web/20100214200211/http://www.educationau-incanada.ca/index.aspx?action=educationsystem-systemeeducation&lang=eng

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (10 children)

I was working summer jobs doing farm labour since before I was a teenager (and I'm not that old), so I'm gonna say that it's fine that 13 year olds are working.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I also had to do farm labour (picking fruit) before I was legally allowed to work at 14. I was taken advantage of (financially) that whole summer - underpaid, and occasionally worked an entire day and got stiffed outright. I've never stopped working since then (I'm in my early 50s), aside from a few months of unemployment between jobs that was more stressful than working. I'll likely have to work until I die.

Fuck that shit.

My kids are 18 and 20 and as long as they're in school, it can stay that way. Once you start, you don't stop. I'll let them enjoy it as long as they can.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

few months of unemployment between jobs that was more stressful than working

So right.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Kids already worked in the mines when they were 5 or 6. We should regress to these great time so that the GDP can continue to grow, and shitty employers can continue to pay poverty wages.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I was working summer jobs doing farm labour since before I was a teenager (and I’m not that old), so I’m gonna say that it’s fine that 13 year olds are working.

So, based on your summertime work, it's okay for kids to work year-round?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

C'mon! Those are rookie numbers! Look at these kids living their best life and getting the best experiences; not a screen in sight!

https://www.eatstayplaybeaufort.com/youve-probably-seen-this-photo-but-do-you-know-the-story-behind-it/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I delivered the newspaper when I was 13. Is that such an alien idea? I used the money to buy my first computer.

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