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'There Are No Kings in America': Biden Blasts Supreme Court, Issues Dire Warning After Immunity Ruling (dailyboulder.com)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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“(With) today’s Supreme Court decision on presidential immunity, that fundamentally changed. For all practical purposes, there are virtually no limits on what the president can do. It’s a fundamentally new principle and it’s a dangerous precedent because the power of the office will no longer be constrained by the law even including the supreme court of the United States.”

Throughout his address, Biden underscored the gravity of the moment, emphasizing that the only barrier to the president’s authority now lies in the personal restraint of the officeholder. He warned vehemently against the prospect of Trump returning to power, painting a stark picture of the dangers such an outcome could pose.

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[–] [email protected] 335 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Then fucking do something about it Joe! The DNC has been little more than passive observers to the raise of fascism.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 9 months ago (23 children)

Since we're talking about a SCOTUS ruling, it would be on Congress to pass legislation.

And to follow up on @teodor_[email protected]'s comment, the Democratic National Committee is a private party organization that supports Democratic candidates in elections. They have nothing to do with passing legislation.

[–] [email protected] 115 points 9 months ago (5 children)

It's on Biden to personally demonstrate to SCOTUS just how dangerous the ruling was.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 9 months ago

By calling for drone strikes on SCOTUS, yes.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"The DNC" doesn't do what you think it does.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (8 children)

It doesn't do what it should.

The point of the party is supposed to be long-term strategy and putting the platform over any one person.

When people talk about what the DNC should be doing, it's not some "gotchya" to point out that they're not doing their job and leadership needs replaced.

It's just proving their point

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[–] [email protected] 253 points 9 months ago (2 children)

He’s so pissed about it he’s gonna do absolutely nothing!

[–] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I would love to see him detain every scotus justice and stash em in a safe house for their protection/national security. Give them no freedom of movement or agency over their lives... see if they change their tune.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (76 children)

You apparently want him to do illegal things because he can now get away with it?

edit: are basic norms being downvoted here because if republicans are corrupt af, we should not have any standards either?

Edit 2: you're not teaching me anything by telling me the Republicans did something more fucked up first. Do you people honestly think Biden would/could murder political opponents. He obviously won't. He shouldn't. Jfc

Edit 3: yup I'm totally saying let's do nothing about this. You people are brilliant.

[–] [email protected] 100 points 9 months ago (10 children)

Apparently "when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal" is now law.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

No, I want him to call their bluff and rise to the challenge of meeting this constitutional crisis. The top court in the land has gone off the rails, and seemingly in collusion with a concerted effort to destroy the rule of law.

Blithely waiting until the election to “let the people defeat Trump” is dereliction. This ruling may be curated in deference for Trump, but unless it is challenged forcefully it will not just go away on January 7th 2024 if Trump loses again. Because when the question of “What are ‘official acts’ v ‘private acts’ then?” comes up, it’ll go right back to the ~~SCotUS~~ the Heritage Foundation and their interpretations.

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[–] [email protected] 169 points 9 months ago (12 children)

So, Biden can order seal team 6 to permanently fix the Supreme Court by removing 6 and leaving 3 alive. Gotcha.

After all, those 6 argued that he has the right to do so.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Democrats will continue to give sternly worded remarks all the way up to their appointment with the gallows, so brave!

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I declare an official act of presidency!

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Only if he claims it’s an official act though! Don’t forget that part! Write “official act as president” on everything!

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[–] [email protected] 140 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (32 children)

Dumbass and spineless Biden and Democrats. The supreme court literally just started that America had a king but this dumbass party would rather take some stupid fucking high road bullshit instead of playing the game to ensure the fascist fuck around and find out.

They don't even have to resort to assassinations, they could really tell the IRS to audit 501(c) and remove their status from the churches and bullshit Republican charities, or tell the justice department to focus on domestic terrorism and corruption to fuck over Republican groups and representatives, or tell the FDA to allow the sale of raw milk.

Play the god damn game and be the fucking king if these corrupt justice says there's a king.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (19 children)

That is a guaranteed path to fascism.

I'm not gonna say that the chances are good, but if they refuse, and win, and then walk back the changes, maybe fascism can be averted.

If they walk into using these tools and normalise them even more, then when the other party gets the government again, you get a republican fascist, and if the other party never gets the government again, it's because you got a "democrat" fascist.

Don't race to the bottom, everyone loses there.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No, you use the fascist power granted by fascists to abuse the fascists who granted it in the first place. Power is the only thing that stops fascists. Start with a few nights in a black site for the justices who thought granting absolute power to the president was OK. If scotus already accepts fascism from their team it's already too late for your plan to work.

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[–] [email protected] 130 points 9 months ago (24 children)

If only he were in some position of power to do something about it hmmmmmm.

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 9 months ago (12 children)

Ok Biden, time to do something about these fascists. They just gave you everything you need to squash the threat, on a silver platter fit for a king. It’s time to process the new information, understand the powers granted to you, and act - are you up to this task? Please don’t let America down, because you have asserted yourself as the only one who can now do anything about it.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Never underestimate establishment Democrats' ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

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[–] [email protected] 102 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Biden: The Supreme Court ruled I can do ANYTHING I WANT!

Also Biden: So I will do NOTHING! Please Vote kthxbai!

[–] [email protected] 55 points 9 months ago (18 children)

Yes, because he actually cares about what the Constitution stands for, not just some adversarial power game. Claim the paradox of tolerance all you want, but fighting fire with fire here is just participating in the same race to the bottom that's destroying our democracy here in the USA.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Preemptive strikes exist. Law does not need to apply after the fact if the law is allowed preventive measures.

And arguing about if one should take such a preventive strike, yes they should since the perp has already declared threatening intentions to cause immediate harm.

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 9 months ago (58 children)

Wow it's a shame he's a fucking pussy who won't author an 'official act' to oust the supreme court.

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[+] [email protected] 92 points 9 months ago (20 children)

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago

Always beware of the fact, that the only thing hindering an all-out revolution is your fear of losing the scraps they throw at you. Gore Vidal

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The infrastructure for a national strike does not exist in America. You need a lot of labor to be organized, and it just isn't. We can barely get individual facilities to go on strike, let alone an entire country. We used to, and that's how we pressured politicians into the New Deal, but organized labor has been dismantled since then.

As for why we're not more like the French, a lot of it comes down to this: They have more unionized workers, as a fraction of the working population, than we do.

Perhaps we forget, here on our islands of leftist beliefs, but the average American is not a radical Socialist, Communist, or Anarchist. They are not tuned-in closely to politics, they are not media literate, they are not part of any active organization besides maybe a local church. They're not going to upend their lives over something they don't understand, without any way to plan with their coworkers.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 9 months ago (2 children)

"Biden Blasts Supreme Court" could have a whole new meaning after their latest ruling

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 9 months ago (17 children)

What is to stop Biden from cancelling the upcoming election?

Being now his powers are effectively unchecked, couldn't he just call off the election as an official act. Rather than stupid shit like ordering assassination or deploying the military, just say "I'm cancelling the election until such time this ruling is overturned and a constitutional amendment is enacted that states that the president is not immune from criminal prosecution"

[–] [email protected] 56 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He doesn't need to cancel the elections. He just needs to wait until after the conventions, when congress and the supreme court are in recess. And then he issues an executive order barring convicted felons from holding federal office.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago

That would be some very funny chaos

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Trump's election had an enormous impact that seems to have survived his Presidency, and will continue to do so for decades to come.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Probably a lot longer. These SCOTUS decrees will last until the US crumbles to dust.

Although, they might have accellerated the timeline towards the end significantly.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 9 months ago (18 children)

I like how every single one of these comments are blaming Biden and the Democrats for a supreme court ruling that the conservatives and Republicans enacted. How about we put the blame on the people who are actually doing the terrible things?

This is why the Republicans keep winning btw, because they're united.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago

Maybe he should wield his newfound power instead

[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

This is how dictatorships start. You know it, right?

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (3 children)

That's just not true. If you are a fascist and rich, you are a king. You can commit crimes in broad daylight and nothing can be done about it.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Time to use these powers to clear out the Supreme Court and put in non corrupt assholes.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (8 children)

We need someone that will use every tool at their disposal to stop trump.

Biden has shown time and time again, that's he's just not willing to do that.

Stopping trump is more important than Biden, if he won't fight, and he won't get out of the way, and the party won't force him to...

It's time to ask why we still support the party. The voters are the irreplaceable part, not the party.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (9 children)

If only Biden was in power right now. And he could abuse his kingly powers to remove the kingly powers and restore Democracy.

But of course this is an amazing carrot to keep everyone voting for Genocide Joe. Just like how Obama refused to encode Roe v Wade to use it as a carrot in the elections.

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