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According to the alternative data platform Quiver Quantitative, replicating Nancy Pelosi's stock trades would have yielded returns exceeding 720% since May 2014.

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[–] [email protected] 188 points 8 months ago (5 children)

It really helps if you are allowed to do insider trading.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (4 children)

A person like that doesn't handle her own portfolio, and their trades are public. Nothing prevented you from trading the exact same stonks they did.

Politicians shouldn't trade because they can still manipulate the bigger picture, favor corporations and move the economy a certain way. Not because they are sitting on Robin Hood at night making money.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 8 months ago (4 children)

their trades are public

Up to 45 days after the trade is made.

While not technically insider trading because they don't work for the companies they're trading, they definitely have access to privileged macro economic knowledge

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Quick math says that's about a 19-20% return annually for the 10yrs since 2014.

The average APY of the S&P 500 over the same time period was about 11-12%.

So definitely way outperforming the market, though maybe achievable with one or two good picks on individual stock?

Definitely not a good look regardless.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago

It's no real secret. Her husband has been buying tech stock LEAPS this whole time. Her portfolio took a huge hit during the tech sector downturn a few years back. Paul doubled down on the tech stocks which have all shot way back up. He put a bunch of money on Nvidia during the GPU shortage well before all this bullshit AI run. Nvidia is up something stupid like 800% since then.

If anything I'd bet it's because she's connected in Silicon Valley. Nancy has the same info everyone in Congress would. But since her district is in the bay area she gets to rub elbows with the right people.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I actually think a 20% return is modest. She literally has her finger on the pulse of the economy. She should have done better.

Not saying I condone it but if you're going to crime and get away with it, as least go big.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Professional portfolio managers, who do this for a living, with teams of intelligent and educated people working for them, struggle to consistently outperform the market in any meaningful sense.

20% is not modest in any way.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 8 months ago

Fuck Pelosi. She's a piece of shit. Just another symptom of this collapsing empire. FYI I am a democratic socialist.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I know people who have worked in corporate acquisitions and there are a ton of controls in place to limit information access and prevent the mere appearance of privelged information being used for personal gain. Likewise in other industries like utilities there are pretty complex regulations to prevent companies from getting even a few cents per kilowatt hour advantage, etc. and all this shit has multimillion dollar fines attached.

Congress could definitely adopt a rule that bans trading stocks for anyone who receives classified or nonpublic industry-specific information as part of security briefings or their committee assignments. Or hell, just limit congresspeople to index funds or generic portfolios managed by external fiduciaries, while in office.

It seems that if both Gaetz/Cruz types and AOC agree on this, they could get it done, but the establishment politicians don't want to because they view it as a perk of the job.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (3 children)

She's not even in the top 5 for Congress, why does she catch all the flack?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (7 children)

I presume it's because she's seen in somewhat of a "senior leadership" position.

Johnny Beluga, the esteemed congressman from butt-munch, Iowa might have five times more illicit gains than her, but no one knows who he is, so fewer people would watch the news to hear about him.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

She's the most consistently well off Democrat trader, as well as occasional speaker of the house of representatives, so the right shits on her and so does the left.

TBH I'm not that against her, she helped pass the transparency laws we currently have over traders in congress, and all of "her" trades are due solely to the fact that when she was in college she married a guy who now owns an investment firm. All of his trades belong to her by nature of joint assets. One of her most notorious trades was when VISA attempted to give her husband some amazing stock options before a big vote on regulations on creditors, of which he bought, and then she voted against VISA's interests for the regulations. Paul still made a profit, though.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (3 children)

4 month old account with only this post. Not suspicious at all /s

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

I mean... that's not that new. And most people are just lurkers anyways.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (1 children)

She’s known as “nance in advance” in trading circles. Some funds follow her investments.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There’s an ETF called NANC that allows you to invest in line with her portfolio. There’s also one called KRUZ that follows Ted Cruz.

https://www.cnbc.com/select/congressional-stock-trading-could-soon-be-tracked/

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Looks like NANC is for all Democrat member trades, and KRUZ is for all Republican member trades. If you're wondering, NANC has +32% standardized pre-tax returns, while KRUZ has +19.1% standardized pre-tax returns.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I despise that woman. When people say the left is as bad as the current GOP, she is who they’re looking at.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, except she's not "left".

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Semi unrelated question (also only semi serious): is there a program or script that can follow a person's trades and make similar trades? Or is she one that, by the time the public knows, it's already too late to jump on the bandwagon?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago

By the time the trade is disclosed it's been like a month and you may be part of the exit liquidity

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

There is a congressional rule that requires individual stock trades of certain amounts to be publicly disclosed within 45 days. However this is apparently not really enforced right now.

Some bipartisan congresspeople have proposed more restrictive rules and bans on stock trading, but those efforts haven't gained traction yet.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Unusual Whales Subversive Democratic Trading ETF (NANC)

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago

One of biggest crooks but not the biggest by far. Anyone who isn't in government and gets that kind of return would have all the financial bureaucracies all up their ass.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (4 children)

She is not a "Mama Bear."

She is a stock trader who is bought by the owner-class while happily doing their bidding, like most of our politicians. There are reasons why they are allowed to be career politicians.

While AOC tries and fails to be her protégé, who knows she still has a lot of time, and looking at her record, she is well on her way to becoming the new Pelosi.


According to the alternative data platform Quiver Quantitative, replicating Nancy Pelosi's stock trades would have yielded returns exceeding 720% since May 2014. Despite these impressive returns, the former House Speaker continues to face criticism for alleged insider trading and the potential introduction of new trade ban rules for Congress members.

Many have speculated that the California representative and other members of Congress benefit from insider information about laws likely to impact stock prices. For instance, the 2022 CHIPS Act, which offered subsidies for the semiconductor industry, has been a point of contention. Pelosi and her husband, Paul, sold 25,000 Nvidia shares at a loss when Congress approved the Act but later purchased Nvidia call options in significant quantities, as reported by Unusual Whales.

In November 2023, Pelosi acquired 50 Nvidia call options with a strike price of $120 and an expiration date of December 2024, well before Nvidia's 10-for-1 stock split. "That was definitely one that caught a lot of people's attention," noted Quiver Quantitative CEO James Kardatzke in an interview with Business Insider.

For Nvidia investors, it might be reassuring to know that Nancy Pelosi is not the only member of Congress buying Nvidia shares. Representatives Morgan McGarvey of Kentucky and Stephen Lynch of Massachusetts have also added shares of the AI chipmaker to their portfolios.

Pelosi's trades attract significant attention, but she is one of many Congress members with a portfolio generating substantial returns. Republican Representative Dan Meuser of Pennsylvania has Nvidia as one of his top portfolio holdings, returning 512.8% since August 2019 and over 103% in one year. Similarly, Democratic Senator Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island has invested significantly in the "magnificent seven" stocks: Nvidia, Apple, Amazon, Microsoft, and Alphabet. His portfolio has returned over 492% since February 2014 and over 50% in one year.

Many popular online trackers monitor the trades of US government officials based on the philosophy of "if you can't beat them, join them." ...Given that the STOCK Act of 2012 requires Congress members to report trading activities within 45 days of execution, the trade completion date isn't known until much later.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

she is well on her way to becoming the new Pelosi.

You accuse AOC but your copy paste only mentions Pelosi. You got any references to back up your claims?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wish the FBI would investigate for corruption like they did here: https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abscam

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

I'm surprised everyone focuses on insider trading. To me the much bigger risk is: shouldn't your decisions affecting the country be unaffected by stocks you own? If you own $10 million of Apple stock for example, how does that affect your vote on an antitrust law? This is a problem even if there's no inside information.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

These sites were collecting hand-transcribed data from congress trading disclosures. Unfortunately, the disclosures were almost always made long after the trades. Perhaps that's why no volunteers have been transcribing data recently.

https://housestockwatcher.com/

https://senatestockwatcher.com/

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