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The motive behind Jovanovic's actions was reportedly her fear that motherhood would jeopardise her professional career as a lawyer for a prestigious car brand.

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 133 points 8 months ago (5 children)
[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 42 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 44 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I know, I'm awful. At least I had the decency to edit out the last panels.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 28 points 8 months ago

I think that makes it even better. Fucking dark, but still funny because we all knew right away what the last panel would look like were it there...

[–] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 19 points 8 months ago

It makes the joke just that much more of an oof tho.

10/10 my friend

[–] Raptor_007@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

Ok I legitimately laughed at this. Well done, sir.

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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 124 points 8 months ago (4 children)
[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 82 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Sounds pretty awful, but remember that prosecutors don't have ESP. So "prosecutors claim she didn't want to jeopardize her career" is not the same as "she didn't want to jeopardize her career".

It's not like she wrote in her diary "Today I killed my newborn because I thought it would interfere with work."

[–] Dud@lemmy.world 74 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Yea I don't think many are as focused on the motivation part as much as the lady defenestrating a fuckin baby.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)

That's fair. Pure unfounded speculation: I wonder if there was an element of post partum psychosis.

[–] Ulvain@sh.itjust.works 32 points 8 months ago (1 children)

My guess: didn't know she was pregnant until very late. Options were dwindling or nil. She was completely and insanely career obsessed and career-anxious.

Arrives the last month or two. Pregnancy is hard to ignore then, but it was probably daily terror and panic as she didn't know what to do. She probably felt cornered, insane with anxiety and barely holding it together in a field that doesn't give you any room for error.

By the time she has to deliver, her brain is likely already pure soup from the anxiety, obsessing with how she can't handle it, how it can't be happening, how she can't be a mother, doesn't want to be a mother, can't - not doesn't want to, but can't! CAN'T you understand?! - stop to work.

So she delivers secretly. By this point she's too far gone, mentally a complete mess, insane, unstable.

So she kills her newborn.

Not as a heinous premeditated act of hatred, violence and mischief, but as a completely insane act of post partum depression, psychosis, work related anxiety and sheer craziness.

She didn't choke or shake the baby then dug a grave at night - she didn't do some elaborate crime and elaborate body-hiding shenanigans.

She threw. The. Baby. Out. Her. Own. Window.

And she's a lawyer.

There was no attempt whatsoever to not get caught or to act surreptitiously.

Just pure terror, psychosis and a horrible, tragic impulse that ended up terminating a new life and ruining another.

Sorry i got carried away lyrically lol.

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[–] Hegar@fedia.io 79 points 8 months ago (4 children)

This just sounds like post partum depression to me.

[–] Twinklebreeze@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago

Post partum psychosis.

[–] card797@champserver.net 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I can't even begin to understand what it's like inside a woman's brain after childbirth. My wife struggled through it and came out ok. I'm glad I could help her.

[–] Patrizsche@lemmy.ca 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You're all rational and empathetic about this smh

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 9 points 8 months ago

That's definitely how I try to be! 😊

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[–] LouNeko@lemmy.world 53 points 8 months ago (2 children)

As fucked up as this is, there's so little information given by this article that I can't even form an opinion on it.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 58 points 8 months ago (4 children)

My current take is babies should not be thrown out of windows

[–] Imprudent3449@lemm.ee 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sure that was my initial impression too, but I think I am going to sleep on it and maybe take some polls or study the matter more deeply. Can't be too rash when judging someone for tossing a baby out of a window.

[–] hardaysknight@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, what if the baby was an asshole?

[–] LouNeko@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

'Who are we killing, I won't do kids, that's a rule, but the rule's negotiable if the kid's a dick.'

  • Adrian Pimento, B99
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[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Personally I like to listen to all sides

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[–] sunzu@kbin.run 10 points 8 months ago

Feels clickbait but it got me going for a minute haha

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 49 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You know what else I bet would jeopardize her professional career?

Also that's murder, not manslaughter.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Ding ding ding we have a winner!

And the social consequences of course

[–] tlou3please@lemmy.world 39 points 8 months ago

Least psychopathic lawyer

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Those speed runners find the weirdest bugs in the simulation

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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago

This is sad, and it’s a shame the prosecutors are only going to be interested in a conviction. This woman is obviously suffering, and needs medical help for her postpartum depression.

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2018/09/postpartum-psychosis-infanticide-when-mothers-kill-their-children/569386/

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 18 points 8 months ago (24 children)

We need to make it so women don't have to feel this way..I thought Germany was fairly progressive like that, but obviously not enough.

[–] Pothetato@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

I mean sure but I think there's a few extra steps between "feeling" this way and fucking doing it.

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[–] shekau@lemmy.today 16 points 8 months ago

birth took place ten minutes prior to the tragic incident

Bro got spawn-killed

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 16 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Hmmm. It looks like Germany has fairly strict limits on the availability of abortion; it's on-demand up to 12 weeks, but requires mandatory counseling first. It seems like perhaps expanding abortion access to on-demand up to the point of realistic fetal viability and eliminating the counseling requirement might--might--have led to a different outcome here.

I wonder if she had attempted to terminate her pregnancy prior to this point?

For the people saying that she should have just adopted the infant: that's extremely difficult for someone to do, even if they know that they don't want a child or are not capable of caring for it. I've seen multiple teens end up keeping children that they didn't plan on, didn't want, and had no means to care for, all because they couldn't go through with an adoption in the end.

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.org 9 points 8 months ago

The government has called up an expert committee and asked for their opinion on potential reforms.

The report came in April, and it strongly suggests making it actually legal in the first 12 weeks (it is currently only decriminalized) and getting rid of the mandatory counseling. They leave it up to the lawmakers to deal with week 12 to 22 (where the fetus starts being able to sustain itself).

The government has not yet started on n implementing this, however.

[–] ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago

If you can't stand to give your baby up, you're also not going to be willing to throw it out the window

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[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 14 points 8 months ago

I guess she didn’t think infanticide would hurt it? She’s clearly not a good lawyer.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

Please give your children up for adoption instead, what the fuck

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure she's actually wrong in the part about it Jeopardizing her career, because let's face it sometimes that's true. However did that not occur to her before she had the child? Surely she should have known that and not had a kid if that was her main priority.

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[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Let's set aside motive and treat this woman's obvious problem with her mental health. The last thing she needs is criminal proceedings and punishment that achieves nothing apart from getting conservative dicks hard.

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