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[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I see that my boy Bernie Sanders boycotted his speech, a true Mensch. Is there a list of everyone who showed up and clapped? I know people are ragging on john fetterman for wearing a suit, but he's actually just abiding by new senate rules that enforces a dress code. I'm more upset that he showed up and fucking clapped for this war criminal. But who else? Do we have a list?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

It's a shorter list of those who didn't clap...all the Rs clapped some of the Ds may not have.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

Rashida Tlaib held up a sign saying Bibi was guilty of genocide.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Eight comments atm, per lemmy dashboard. I have all of them blocked apparently, as it shows as “blank”.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I often see this happen, where a post says there are several comments but there are none when I click through, and I very seldom block users so there must be another cause.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

I would guess that it's an activity pub thing where the comments haven't actually synched to your instance yet

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Don't need to wait to study the history of genocide, it happened again a few days ago... 11 children in a playground.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Horrible, but not a genocide. Still, really really horrible and those that call them freedom fighters are delusional

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (7 children)

US voters think that the choices are Trump or Biden and that a little genocide with Biden is better than more genocide with Trump and have been calling the genocide a single-issue that should not go into people's decisions this November at the ballot box

not going to lie intentionally have been skipping over news about the situation because it so sickening and know powerless to do anything

reading this article was very disheartening

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's a two party system. You can either vote for the person who advocates for more genocide or the person (not Biden, just FYI) who is looking at active de-escalation.

It's America, there are only two choices. If you refuse to chose less genocide you're furthering the deaths of Palestinians.

You need to be an adult - sometimes there's no nice option... sometimes the choice is between shitty and even shittier. Be the person that makes the world a less awful place.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (4 children)

thanks for proving my point

in the US the biggest perpetuated piece of propaganda myth is that we have only two options and we will never rise above the shitty choices so pick the one that smells better

obviously with that mindset nothing will ever change

elites have won for now

[–] aubeynarf 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

They’ve won forever if you check out. Use your vote to move the needle just a bit - waiting for a perfect solution means things get worse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But if we don’t vote, the bad guys will take over!” Scaring people into voting is no way to create change nor prevent disaster but rather glosses over deeper problems of the political system that voting doesn’t address. However, for those who truly believe some politician is not as bad as the other one, it’s not that I disagree. Despite my many grumblings, I don’t insist that voting is entirely futile, just that it’s mostly so. If you think it’s worth the minuscule effort, go for it and don’t feel bad about it. I’m just critical of the widespread belief that voting will have more of a positive effect than a normal effort-to-reward calculus would indicate. The degree that voting is overvalued as a form of political engagement is the degree it displaces other more effective forms and forestalls social change. source

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Given the current electoral system it isn't a myth - it's how we ended up with Woodrow Wilson after all.

I'd love to see us break out of it too but the voting system needs to change before we can seriously consider a third party option.

America was basically the alpha release of Democracy and it has an absolutely broken electoral system - ideally the president wouldn't even be elected and we'd only have one branch of congress but we're working within the boundaries of what we have and if you choose to help get Trump elected that's fucking on you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

US was the beta system at best, based on Greek/Roman democracy including the slavery!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Jill Stein had 1/3 the popular votes of libertarian Gary Johnson in 2016. They both had the same number of EC votes.

At 3.3% of the popular vote, Johnson did better than any third party candidate since '96. Maybe if you close your eyes and wish really hard you could get a libertarian to claim a single EC vote.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

US voters think that the choices are Trump or Biden

If you don't think this then you've been paying zero attention.

Edit: yes I know it will be Harris not Biden. I read this more as R vs D which is the state of elections in the country

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Most of us think it's Trump or Harris at this point.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Sorry, it was directed more at OP than you.