Because no one cared about that 60 years ago
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Most people weren't even aware of it.
The general public knowing every little detail about a celebrity's life simply wasn't a thing then.
People wrote songs about it. Famous songs that you know the words to. People knew, they just didn't care.
The sad truth is that it was a very common practice. Just wait until they hear about Jerry Lee Lewis.
And the Grateful Dead (sure Bob, you waited while she slept outside your room every night for 3 years), Chuck Berry, Jimmy Page, Led Zeppelin, and about a hundred other groups. Hell, Kiss had the Christine Sixteen song, Jethro Tull had Aqualung, Seventeen by Winger, Into the Night by Benny Mardones, and a bunch of other songs have super uncomfortable lyrics about girls.
That's not even getting into well known shit bags like Nugent.
Jethro Tull doesn't romanticize Aqualung (the old man that sits on a park bench and eyes little girls with bad intents). Quite the contrary actually.
That's a really good point. I'm leaving it for now so your reply makes sense but I'll remove it next time I make that list (which happens too often).
Yuuuuuup it's a long line of assholes in rock and roll.
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As disgusting as we see it now, keep in mind that, back then, child marriage was not only condoned but sometimes encouraged in those parts of the Southern U.S.
We'll never know if he did it because he had a thing for young girls, or if he did it simply because it was an accepted practice.
Regardless of why, it's objectively terrible that he did that.
Canada only changed the age of consent from 14 to 16 last decade.
Age of consent is not the same as age an adult is allowed to be with a minor. Minors should be allowed to consent to have sex, just not with much older people. Laws that prosecute, say, a 19 year old from having sex with a 17 years old, or god forbid two 14 years olds to have sex together, are absolutely draconian.
Actually, that's exactly what age of consent is. The age at which you're allowed to do things with an adult of any age.
Romeo and Juliet (or close in age) exceptions are for the situation you're describing, and are usually tacked onto age of consent laws as an exception.
In Canada, there's a pair of these. At 14 and 15 it's less than 5 years older, and at 12 and 13 it's less than 2 years older.
Fun fact: there's no such thing as objective morality. Back in the 1920s people thought it was objectively terrible for Black people to have equal rights.
I said it was objectively terrible, I didn't mention morals. :)
Harming people is terrible, whether or not social morality supports it.
It wasn't seen as harmful back then.
No, but it was harmful.
I'm talking about the objective harm of encouraging underage girls to avoid study and live their lives in the service of older men. There is nothing good that can be said about such a thing. It's basically indentured servitude.
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Because his fame comes from an era when that kind of age gap and inappropriate conduct was handwaved away with "fRoM a GoOd FaMiLy!"
Especially in his native southern US. Especially especially among the white folks in his native southern US.
Have you not listened to songs from that era? They're mostly about hooking up with underage girls.
Yeah, sweet seventeen by Chuck Berry also hits ... as at the very least, creepy in 2024.
Don't forget "Sweet Caroline" about an 11 y/o Caroline Kennedy. Fucking creep.
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Might you be thinking of “Sweet Little Sixteen” by Chuck Berry? The guy who btw installed cameras in women’s bathrooms?
Also, the most venerated boomer band of all time…
“She was just 17… if you know what I mean “
Love the Beatles, mind you, but uhhhh… all of those boomer bands were like that.
“I used to pull your pigtails And your scrunched up nose But baby you been growing And baby it’s been showing From your head down to your toes”
Another Elvis hit, “Little Sister.”
Again, love the King, but uhhh….
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Snoop was a pimp. Now everybody loves him. Weird.
And stood trial for a murder, which he was definitely present at. Everyone's forgotten that Snoop is an actual OG who ran with bangers. His PR with Martha Stewart completely changed his image, and now he'll put his name and face on anything that will pay him enough money.
Yes, Priscilla was 14.
I don't like saying it because people get very emotional and unreasonable about this but:
These things were normal a long time ago. It's only been in recent years, especially starting from the 1960s, that moral panic took over and these things are looked at now as "a crime".
emotional and unreasonable
moral panic took over and these things are looked at now as "a crime".
Ah yes, what a neutral and regulated way to phrase that.
I think they meant people's reaction to the idea that the past could've had a different view on it that we view as disgusting rather than implying it's "emotional and unreasonable" to view criminalized pedophilia as a "moral panic", but I'm not a telepath. That was just my reading of it.
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Plenty of famous people were scumbags. Violent, racist, misogynist, beat up women, cheated, etc. From John Wayne to Frank Sinatra, they were awful human beings but people worship them.
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This, but also rape and other abuse was tolerated for some reason back then.
There is also a bit of a gender disparity for who is getting help now. Women can get help a lot more easy than men, and aren't as likely to be dismissed when they come forward.
Lets keep pushing in the right direction
Well he managed to sell rock music to white people so we can look past that
Elvis was a hero to most but he never meant shit to me because the fucker was whack
- Bob Vylan
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