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[–] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 173 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I keep banging on about how hiring practices need to be reformed, and stopping this shit should be the first thing on the agenda

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 59 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There is no agenda for the benefit of working people.

Corpos do this on purpose to tired out the wage slaves with bull shit.

Best we can do is to educate ourselves and avoid these idiotic games.

Middle levels and senior people can start doing this today.

Entry level, well young people act like this is the first time this has happened in history but I can tell you that entry level has been bloodbath since early 1990s.

But once you get some grip, start acting like you respect yourself

[–] gothic_lemons@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If we elect the right people we can make it the agenda. That's a big ask yes, but it's also why they don't want us to vote.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If people keep voting two party regime or don't vote, the owners don't care.

Voting third party as protest vote is where it is at IMHO so maybe in 20 years there is a third option

Ain't American democracy grand?

[–] gothic_lemons@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

2 party sucks. But they are not the same. One offers some hope of change. Look at the recents changes to air travels the FTC did. https://www.transportation.gov/briefing-room/fact-sheet-biden-harris-administration-announces-rules-deliver-automatic-refunds-and

They are consumer protections.

Now imagine if we organized and voted in ppl like Bernie or AOC. We can achieve real change.

I'm sorry but voting 3rd party without the math making sense or ranked choice voting, is largely a waste of a vote

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If only everybody voted AOC, we all would be saved 🤡

We got obama, how did that go for young and peasants lol

[–] gothic_lemons@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't remember can you tell me? I'm sorry I have a pre existing condition that fucks up my memory, only started getting insurance to cover the medicine some time after 2008.

What type of bridge you live under?

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Good for you... Vast majority of people didn't benefit from it though. It was a half baked measure with a few good thing for some people. But let's not act like the reform was beneficial to anybody beyond industry and few peasants so they can screach how it was all worth it for them, fuck proper policy analysis 🤡

We got the government we deserve I guess jfc

[–] gothic_lemons@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (5 children)

The billion class love your defeatist attitude BTW. Progress is never perfect, so why try right?

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[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 56 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Start by paying interviewees the wage of the job posted for their time interviewing and doing "tests"

These fuckers spend bajillions on HR software and HR execs, surely they can figure out how to hire quality candidates at a more efficient clip?

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 6 points 7 months ago

HR is the reverse union... Yet NPCs will accept the parasite but screach at an idea of bargaining power 🤡

[–] Madrigal@lemmy.world 64 points 8 months ago

The HR profession’s reputation as pond scum remains intact.

[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 49 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Legal vs illegal when it comes to business is a forgone conclusion. Enforceable vs unenforceable should be the main focus. If you pass 100 laws and none of them are enforced on the entities that caused the legislation, you are only punching down.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Then the enforcement squad should be vigilantism towards the recruiters, no ?

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 7 months ago

The way we are going, that's how it will have to handled.

Bad faith actors will be punished by the mob because the state refuses to do its job.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

I have job hopped 3 times in the last 2 years, increasing my salary by over 25% each time. My secret? Recruiters. I don't know if I'm just in a high demand field, but I just keep my LinkedIn profile set to "looking for work" and every couple of weeks I'll get a new recruiter reaching out. I always respond and see what they're offering. Sure, 9/10 times it's not better, but at least I can use them to sharpen my resume/interviews skills. But then there's always that 1/10 where it's like "wait, you're offering HOW much?!"

I never plan on leaving, but damn, am I just supposed to ignore an offer with a huge pay increase?

The best time to look for a new job is when you already have one. If you have a job, set your profile to open and keep an ear to the ground. Let the recruiters work for you. You'll never know what will come your way.

[–] dumples@midwest.social 8 points 8 months ago

Linkedin is the only worthwhile social media. Just ignore the feed and just use it to connect with recruiters.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 8 points 8 months ago

Similar for me, but just 2 times in 8 years. Including internal promotions at those jobs, I increased my salary by more than 3x.

It costs literally nothing to just be open for incoming contact requests.

[–] NewWorldOverHere@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

At what point do they tell you what salary they’re offering?

Does your field require extensive tests/interview process prior to being hired?

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yea salary is usually discussed after the tests/interview. I do them anyways to keep my skills sharp.

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[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 35 points 8 months ago

Fucking parasites.

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

No wonder I've only had 4 interviews in 9 months. The job application process is fucking ridiculous right now.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

The one and only time I managed to get scheduled for an interview from an online job application, GMail filed the fucking email as spam! So of course I missed the interview... ☹️

Fuck online job applications!

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

There’s 2 companies that still have the same job posting I applied to 6 months ago up and none of my other ex coworkers heard anything from them either. I won’t apply to those companies again. Bu bye

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)

When I was starting out I would copy job postings for the position I wanted and then post a fake version so I could see what sort of resumes I'd be competing against.

The take away from doing that: put effort into the design of your resume - make it a pdf and never send a word doc.

Oh, also applying for jobs is a pure numbers game. You should be applying to as many as you can and not spend too much time on any one application.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

People send fucking Word docs‽

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Some HR clowns specifically ask for them

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wait til you see "Copy paste your entire resume into this tiny plaintext input box." Lmao

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 months ago

and then upload it as a document separately anyways because fuck you, also write a cover letter because ditto

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[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

That would explain my poor luck with getting interviews. So I choose to believe this.

"Am I unemployable for reasons I am incapable of comprehending?" "No. No, it's the recruiters who are wrong."

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)

So there’s employment in the afterlife?

[–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 8 months ago

Don't give them ideas. Death is the only escape from work we'll likely have.

[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah, the retirement age has been raised to dead + 25 years.

[–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 8 months ago

Only in hell.

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

No data, no methodology, and the research was done by a resume company.

Do you have any clue how to spot an advertisement?

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Clearly you haven't been looking for a job lately...

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean if you want to use absolutely worthless personal data, I have 3 peers who were looking for jobs and found them inside of two months.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I love how you're criticizing the data and methodology and then you immediately share anecdotal evidence which you would know is worthless.

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Bro asked for it. Funny how that works.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 months ago

just noticed this is the same person who replies condescendingly one of my comments lmao, man this dude is unpleasant

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