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Veggietales Facts (lemmy.today)
submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 
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[–] [email protected] 73 points 8 months ago (5 children)

That's just a fact. The whole US political system should be scrapped and re-developed to make it a democracy.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 8 months ago (7 children)

You can fix the american democracy by upgrading it ranked choice voting, abolishing the electoral college, ending citizens united, giving all prisoners the right to vote, reforming the supreme court, make Washington DC and Puerto Rico states.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Eliminating the senate, massively increasing the size of the house, making registration automatic, executing anyone caught disenfranchising voters, etc

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Eliminating the Senate might seem like a good way to reduce the outsized influence that voters in smaller states wield, but the Senate helps keep those states in the union.

Also, the death penalty should be eliminated, not expanded.

We obviously need to address the fact that our government doesn't represent the country, but drastically increasing the ability of larger states to ride roughshod over the interests of smaller states is not a recipe for stability.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Death penalty only for white collar crime?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

The absolutists are wild... Some people absolutely deserve to never have influence over someone else ever again. There are only so many ways to actually accomplish that...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

The death penalty thing was said tongue in cheek. And we already settled the whole can you leave the union thing a little while back.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

... Introducing proportional representation and majority elected president, enfranchising all people, ending politically appointed judiciary, making intentional lies with the intention to mislead the public a criminal offence...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Nah, don't tie provable intent to it. Just knowingly lie should be enough. If it's not under national secrets or some other thing, lying SHOULD be illegal out of representatives. Always.

They can always say, "no comment" if they feel the urge to lie.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Eliminating the Senate is not a good idea. Maybe just fix it by populating it in proportion to the states citizens?

And do yourself a favor and finally abolish the death penalty. It does not become to a civilized country.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It would be so cool to be a part of a true democracy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

You guys (Americans) need to stop with the personality cults. It was cute and funny when it was sports stars and actors, but it slipped down the slope when it’s dangerous malignant narcissists like Trump and Musk. The attitude is the same, though, stop glorifying other people so much, whether it’s on the left or right. No amount of democracy will fix that loophole for populists.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Remember that you enter a revolution with the culture you've got, not the culture you want. Think on that very carefully before you roll those dice.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I seriously think that all constitutions should have expiry dates.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 8 months ago

I would just like to point out that it can still get so, so much worse.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago (1 children)

depends on perspective. if you're a billionaire, it's right on track.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago

That's what the French and Russian aristocrat's thought right before the French and Russian revolutions.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago (3 children)

might be right, might be wrong, but I'll be fucked if I take my news from a bunch of christofascist vegetables.

THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE ARMS!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They don't have arms so they can't self-pleasure (it is a "sin")

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

Which means they can only pleasure each other.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

yeah they're left with mouths, vaginas and anuses AS GOD INTENDED VEG TO BE lol

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

THEY DON’T EVEN HAVE ARMS!

Confirmed, VeggieTales is anti-2A.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Are we using christofascist as a way to call Christianity fascist now, or did I miss some fascist messaging in VeggieTales?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Well, if you wanna call the religion evil, you do you I guess, but at least be accurate about it. The Bible doesn't condone fascism (in fact, much of the point of the New Testament is that laws are not the way to save people,) so using christofascist as a term to refer to Christianity in general is diluting the definition of fascism. If you wanna use that term to refer to the people who use Christian branding as an excuse to push fascist laws, that's fine, just don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

All it condones is slavery, incest, murder, the divine right to rule and a theocratic state, and the genocide of all non-Jewish people in Israel. Not fashy at all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Slavery: Not condoned, not condemned, just regulated. See here for details. But that's a fair argument to make.

Incest: Only condoned in the early generations of humanity when it was necessary, directly condemned afterwards. I guess I can see how you'd be confused if you heard about it secondhand, but any familiarity with the cases in question ought to show this. Incest in and of itself (discounting other problems like rape and pedophilia it tends to coincide with) is a problem primarily because it leads to a higher incidence of genetic defects, and there were no genetic defects in the first batch of humans as God created them perfectly.

Murder: Obviously against the ten commandments. I don't know what you're talking about. Is it the death penalty? Are you trying to gish gallop me? I don't mind answering your points, but I'd appreciate it if you be more specific so I don't have to guess what you're referring to in order to address it.

Divine right: In the strictest sense, that God gives authorities their right to rule, sure, but they're not above accountability like divine right typically says. The Bible says to follow the laws of men only where they do not conflict with the laws of God.

Genocide: That's a tricky one, where the Israelites were to wipe out the Canaanites. I don't have a good answer for it. What I do know is that God's judgment is righteous, and that this one case is not justification for genocides at human convenience (though non-Christians might interpret it that way, including but not limited to a certain state. I'm not defending them.)

Also, just so we're clear, incest is gross, but it's not fascist.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

If that helps you sleep at night.

You might want to read the actual Biblical text of the "Ten" Commandments. They aren't what Sunday School told you they were.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean, it's still in the top 30% of nations to live in. The US is nowhere near its potential for a great place to live but it's still above average.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I don't entirely disagree but I think at this advanced stage, it's largely due to inertia.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The United States is a cruel mockery of a developed nation especially when looking at the Mississippi

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

What's up with Mississippi?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

The state has the highest obesity rate, is the least developed state, the life expectancy is at age 74.4, has the lowest high school graduation rate, one of the lowest tax rates in the country, one of the lowest unionization rates, the state government has been under republican trifectas since 2012.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

it's full of shit.

Stretches of the Mississippi River within the park corridor exceed water quality standards for mercury, bacteria, sediment, PCBs (polychlorinated biphenyl), and nutrients. Unfortunately, these "impairments" can make the water unsuitable for fishing, swimming, and drinking. Mar 6, 2023

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It has the lowest HDI in the US. (0.866) That would put it between San Marino and Chile on the country HDI rating. (44th highest overall)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It was fun while it lasted, but it's time for the crown to bring the colonies back to order.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"The UK political system is like the US, but whimsically worse" - John Oliver

From his piece on the UK elections. Probably not 100% correct, but should be somewhat close.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Didn't say better, just order

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Incorrect.

The US are 50 failed states.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nah, California could happily carry on by itself.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

But every other state despises that we can. It's a real nut punch when other states are jealous of our GDP.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

These vegetables have spoiled.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

You helped veggietales. You tripe rotted the brains of many young Americans.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Ok, but now who would bring back the Aztec empire?

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