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My thoughts: this was not an accident. This was testing the waters.

I wonder what the person who absolutely insisted to me yesterday that this wasn't about black people in general would have to say about this...

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Okay I didn't watch the video until looking at your link and saw the whole "he started saying migrant wrong" bullshit and was like, "okay maybe that is what happened.". No, this dude straight throws a hard r n word out casually, unmistakable as anything else.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lmao, whose down voting you? It's a direct link to the video!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

People downvote the weirdest shit.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"threads.net" = downvote, I reckon

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I meant an accident in the sense of "I said something racist out loud when I meant to only say it in my head." But I don't think that was the case here.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

They hide behind “its only racism when im actively in the process of saying the n word out loud” but now i guess even that get’s an asterisk

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 10 months ago

In other words, an editor of a magazine that explicitly advocated for white supremacy in the 50's and 60's let the mask they've since put on slip for a second

[–] [email protected] 48 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I think it was an accident. And this fuck uses the word too much.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well it's some very interesting timing for such an accident.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I changed my mind after putting in earphones and listening to it more clearly

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The video also looks like he's making an M sound (closed lips) than an N sound (open lips). Grammatically, I also don't think including "Haitian" makes sense if the next word is a slur.

I'm all for calling out the actual content on the conversation as the absolute nonsense that it is, but this specific headline seems like a bit of a reach.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

“Guys the party switch is a myth we’re the party that abolished slavery”

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Even during the Reconstruction Era, Indiana was both staunchly Republican and full of the KKK. And there was no shortage of racism irrespective of party in Congress during the height of the Civil War. The myth is that the Radical Republicans of the 1860s and 70s represented the party population as a whole, rather than a vocal minority within an ascendant movement that managed to squeeze in a few good reforms before Hayes sold it all down the river.

Republicans barely abolished slavery even with half the country in Time-Out. And they were crucified for it in elections to come.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Even if this was just an "innocent" slip up it's not like what he said wouldn't have been racist otherwise. The dude is defending the false claims about Haitian immigrants. It's still racist.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Can a white guy slip up and use the n word? Not sure that's a slip up.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It never is. People don't "slip up" that way unless they use it all the time when in private.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago

Haitian mig-r? Lol. Clearly the man is too used to saying the N word off public broadcast.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago

That, uh, was definitely a hard ‘r’ there. Jesus Christ.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

My thoughts: this was not an accident. This was testing the waters.

The staff at the National Review have always been neo-confederate trash and I have no trouble believing Lowry simply uses this word on such a routine basis that it slipped out during an interview with another arch-conservative media figure.

These folks are racists and it shouldn't be seen as surprising when they show all the symptoms of a bigoted mind.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (24 children)

Gonna invoke the hivemind rage and say that, upon listening w headphones, it does kinda sound like he's saying "migr -" with a short "i" sound.

Now queue the downvotes, calling me racist, dumb, etc.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I often say "mihgr-" instead of "migrants" and then cut myself off. Plausible.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think you're hearing what you want to hear and getting a hit of the righteous outrage. Misspeaking is a thing, dude. You say "plausible" sarcastically, as if it weren't actually 100% plausible lol

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Sounds like everyone here is “hearing what they want to hear” except you. What does that suggest to you?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Really sounds like it starts with an N and not an M so I don’t buy the mispronunciation story.

Also there is the fact that neither immigrants nor migrants ends in ‘gger’

He prolly had a bet with a friend that he would slip in an N word.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

I saw the dumb defender say he was conflating immigrant and migrant but I replayed that part a dozen times. It really, really sounds like an 'N' as the first letter. It definitely was not him beginning to pronounce 'immgr'. You can plainly hear it.

But even if we gave him the benefit of the doubt, the fact that Megyn Kelly completely ignored it and the fact that he didn't apologize immediately and explain it says volumes about both of them. Why didn't Kelly even say anything? Maybe she's so used to hearing it in her circles, maybe even saying it, that it didn't even register as something unusual to her and she didn't notice it.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Even better, there is a video of it. He definitely said it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

I was all but bending over backwards trying to hear how it might have been just a slip, bringing to bear the fact that both words have a nasal consonant and hard 'g' sounds, but... nope. He enunciates an 'n' again, clearly after he's done saying "Haitian" and therefore where it doesn't belong, and then he gets all the way to the hard '-er', a “murmur diphthong” that simply doesn't exist in 'immigrant' or 'migrant'. The most charitable explanation with any plausibility whatsoever is that the n-word is a part of his spoken vocabulary and he failed to censor himself quickly enough.

Fuckin' gross.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Yeah I have Threads in my uBlock filters. Watched the clip and, yeah, that's a hard N if I've ever heard one.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I'm gonna be honest, this is a stretch. I watched the clip. Whatever he was about to say definitely sounds like it was starting with an M, not an N. His lips are in a closed shape at that moment, which you'd see with an M sound and not an N. With the context of what he's saying, it really sounds like he was trying to say "migrant" and "immigrant" at the same time.

Don't get me wrong, this dude's a dipshit for dozens of other reasons. But there's nothing here this time. This really doesn't seem to be worth any amount of energy.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I wondered if this might turn out to be somebody reading something into something, but Nope, he said it clear as a bell. You don't accidentally say that unless you're thinking it. This is obviously a word this guy uses frequently, and he even seems proud of himself for it.

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