Holy FUCK. Don't read the article if you're easily affected by true stories of evil like I am.
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easily affected by true stories of evil like I am.
My brain starts playing La Mer (the Julio Iglesias version at the end of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy or What a Wonderful World by Louis Armstrong) when I read stories like that.
Interesting left turn. For those of you who don't know: https://youtu.be/zGcp3_OT2-0?si=NSR0wwvL8j3suxYe
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This article is suuuuper heavy handed.
Over the coming months, he wore Sarah down, says Tina Harris, by showering her with attention, gifts and travel — even paying travel expenses for the other Harrises too.
Wore her down? Fuck, wear me down daddy.
And, how many times are they going to bring up that 14 thing? She was 23! Just because the dude said (paraphrased) “hey I remember seeing you before” doesn’t mean he was beating off to her.
Other than the drugs part, he just sound like a horny dude, and she was into it.
He went to her restaurant and got her as a server… yeah no shit. If I know someone at a restaurant, I get them as a server.
Now about those drugs… dude is super irresponsible. Dude is probably an addict. However, she probably had her fair share of drugs. Ketamine can be a fun time, but it’s dangerous. And he should not have given someone an injectable drug, and allowed them to inject themselves. He’s a doctor ffs. He not the dude on the block who can get you high.
Drugs can kill. Don’t inject them. 😩
Bro that’s not even an accurate summary of the article. Do you have zero reading comprehension or do you just enjoy defending at best borderline pedos?
Yeah, that is an awful take.
I think it's more trying to be edgy than reading comprehension. Although, going into an article with that mindset affecting your whole life definitely does shade your comprehension.
Right? Let’s just ignore that he was basically stalking her from 14 on.
Explain to me your understanding of the article. I don’t know how he’s a pedo because she was 23, and the only reference to her being 14 was the mother who said that he said She was pretty. My point is that this article is very heavy-handed, and was carefully written to sound like she was 14 when any of them started. She was 23
Other people have explained it to you, and the article is right fucking there for you to click on and read, which you’ve ostensibly already done. I’m not going to waste my time further with a person like you.
No one has explained anything. Someone said he raped her but nowhere in the Article does it say that. It’s just a lot of quotes from the mother, who understandably is pissed off. But even the article said that none of her statements could be corroborated.
Believe me, I’m not defending him For giving her drugs, I’m just criticizing the writing.
Here, I'll take this up. The article also quotes text messages between them wherein he admits he injected her with ketamine himself while she was asleep.
You are monstrous for defending this monster.
I’m not defending HIM, I’m criticizing the article for trying to paint a different picture. He’s definitely abusing drugs, and helping her abuse drugs. He’s definitely guilty of supplying, and probably assisted with the dose that killed her.
But, he’s not a child molester, as the article suggests. And, he’s not “grooming” her. The mother sure didn’t complain when he took both of them on vacations.
He’s just a really irresponsible person who knows better.
You downplayed his actions with the drugs as "irresponsible" (earlier and again now) and only talked about him making drugs available to her rather than forcefully injecting them when she couldn't consent.
He predated on a very young patient. Whether or not the mother's claims about his comments are true, he is clearly a manipulative monster.
The article talks both about the evidence and the mother's statements. You look really bad here.
You telling me that I look bad to you doesn’t mean anything to me. There is nothing that anyone can say that can make me feel bad.
What other word would you use besides irresponsible? That seems to be the right word. His irresponsible actions led to her dying. That’s not downplaying anything.
I don’t consider 23 to be very young.
The mother seemed perfectly fine with all of this when it was benefiting her.
I don’t consider 23 to be very young.
Ah. So you're basically an edgy 14-year-old. Good luck with the growing up thing. Try to stop victim blaming someday.
Not what’s happening.
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And in at least one case, Ryan appears to have actually administered the drugs to Sarah himself. On Dec. 20, 2021, he'd written "If you wake up … I just went to change, after I gave you Ketamine just now …"
This message? That's not what this says.
If I asked someone to give me ketamine, and they did, I would go to sleep. If I woke up and wondered where they were, it would be nice of them to have left me a message saying they'd just gone to get changed and would come back.
OTOH if someone gave me ketamime while I was asleep in order to control me somehow, they probably wouldn't leave me a message telling me they had done so.
You realise it's an article about a TV series which only quotes a grieving mother and a retired cop right?
Maybe take another look at the article with just a modicum of scepticism.
Wow I’m feeling sorry for you my dude. You’re correct and everyone is too dense to read the article…infuriating.
Honestly sometimes getting downvoted to oblivion on Lemmy is a key indicator that you're not 14 and have some life experience beyond selfhosting a minecraft server.
The article is a promotion for a docudrama.
Of course what happened to her is truly, genuinely sad, but millions of young women lose or ruin their lives over drugs every year. They don't get their own docudrama because they're less pretty, or less relatable, or have less respectable abusers.
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I wanted to agree with you at some point here, but I just can’t bring myself to it.
He didn’t just notice her at 14, he kept on pursuing her. He frequented the toy store she worked at with his family. He then frequented the restaurant when she was a server (doesn’t say what age). It paints a pretty clear picture of obsession.
He also had already knocked up one of his office staff outside of his marriage. It doesn’t seem that this person has much regard for women.
Sure gifts, dinners and travel are part of courtship, but the line gets damn hazy when you start introducing drugs (particularly ones you prescribe) into the mix. I think as a society we certainly should frown upon that.
There’s a lot of questions about what age things happened at. The article is very vague on purpose. Now, I’m not trying to say that anything he did was right, just that this article is very carefully written to make you think he’s some kind of child molester. These are also quotes from the mother, and may or may not be true at all.
He also got convicted by a jury of his peers.
For the Death. Of which he is responsible, yes.
Imagine taking the time to write a wall of text in defence of a rapist.
You're telling on yourself.
Where was it that he raped her?
I mostly agree.
Yes the guy was criminally reckless with the drugs he had access to professionally.
The rest of this article is just a narrative really.
Plenty of people do drugs in their 20s. She was getting them from her sugar daddy. Every parent that lost a child to addiction could write a similar story.
What's more startling is that users here somehow think that 50 year olds don't want to party with 23 year old beauty pageant hotties, and that 23 year old beauty pageant hotties don't want to do drugs and live large with 50 year old dudes.
Yep. He fucked up because he was in a relationship with an addict who he should not have supplied drugs to.
One fact is that you're defending a convicted killer, so the jury disagrees with you. The other thing is that you're willing to err on the side of being horrible. Not a good look at all.
None of that is happening. Gaslighting won’t make you right. Shame on you.
Your words speak for themselves
That’s what words do Sherlock.
Dude is a manipulative creep. He spent years stalking her, love-and-money-bombed her and her family to get her affection, then used drugs to control her until they killed her.
If you think anything he did is remotely normal, I feel sorry for the women in your life.
No… he didn’t. He met her at 23. The mother claimed he had seen her before. But there is no timeline of events. She wasn’t 14 working at a restaurant. Also, the mother was totally cool with them dating…. Which is why she went with them as a group on vacation and was having drinks on his dime.
You need to take a breath and read that article again with the understanding that most of it is hearsay, and the writer is purposefully trying to cast him as a child molester when nothing actually points to that besides the vague comments from the mother.
But yes, he did provide the drugs that killed her, and was most likely present when they were administered, and he should be punished for manslaughter.
Can you help me understand love-and-money-bombed?
That sounds kinda great compared to my 20s, in which I had no love nor money and was ultimately miserable and lonely.
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Not sure why everyone is disagreeing with you. But you're right. If they read it normally without getting emotional. It's pretty obvious. There is no mention of him raping or him doing anything to her when she was underage. It was all after she was 18. I think the article was being vague on purpose to rile people up. Otherwise the article would have listed the age of the girl when she was working at the store and restaurant or listed what he did to her while she was underage. But in regards to the drug and her dying. Hell yeah he's at fault for that and I'm glad the jury convicted him of it.
Agreed.
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Holy shit that sounds scary
This is why I thought Blink Twice was the most realistic horror movie I've ever seen. I new that kind of thing was happening some place.
Quite messed up of James.
terrible, but how is that news-worthy?
CBS News is shilling for their parent which cut a docudrama with the story.
It's all in a report titled "Depraved Heart Murder," airing Saturday Oct. 5 at 10/9c on CBS and streaming on Paramount+.
"report"
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