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Jill disappears on November 6th and reappears 3 years and 10 months later. Like clockwork.

Do you think she started out earnest and got co-opted?
Has she been a willing accomplice since day one?

To sit at a fancy gala dinner with the very definition of what the hard right salivates to be, then to declare that both parties are the same... that is something... that takes some fucking chutzpah.

The lack of viable ones is less a result of effort on their part or desire for them among the electorate, and more to do with the nature of our voting system. Its hard to develop a viable third party when the system one is operating in mathematically guarantees that only two parties can be seriously competitive with eachother in nationally significant elections, and those parties are already established. They can be competitive in local elections that the larger ones dont put as much effort into, but the only times theyve ever gotten to the presidency have been the couple times when one of the two major parties basically collapses and gets replaced with a different one.

Not to mention the significant Russian ties for the Green Party and the clear spoiler effect.

First result for green party Russian ties

Finally, yes! Anyone who wants to vote for a third party should instead spend their time and effort fighting for a different voting system (ranked choice, star, etc) that could mathematically allow a third party to actually succeed.

False equivalency. This is, in fact, an election year. And pushing a presidential spoiler hack backed by Russia isn't a great look anyway.

Oh, they're working, all right — but for who?

What's the last law the greens got passed with their tactics?

They’re the ones saying voting against Harris is the only power they have to change her policies.

Please tell me what they've been doing for the last 3 years.

And you are no closer to accomplishing your goals....

There is a reason socialists in the US vote for the democratic party: we have influence in participation and have been granted concessions.

This is not a post about supporting third parties, which is still pointless anyway. This is a post about third parties themselves doing nothing in non-election years. If you aren't a third party candidate this post isn't about you.

Third parties in the presidential campaign only allow people to vote in a non tactical way. If they actually want to do anything they should start on square one which is to get a single candidate into congress.

The strategy for presidential campaigns should always be to run, get the message across, watch polling, withdraw, endorse until they are big enough. When big enough then open up coalition talks and affect policy by promoting voter reform and couple of key policies.

Doing just the presidency is good for publicity but incredibly inadequate.

In our electoral system, a vote for a third-party is a waste, and any resources dumped into them is a bigger waste.

A socialist is going to prefer Harris over Trump, but by voting a third party instead of Democrat they're effectively supporting Trump. When the election comes down to the wire, they'll be the ones responsible for a second Trump term.

This has already happened. People voting for the Green party over Al Gore are the reason we got 8 years of Bush.

This presidential election is not the time to be pushing the PSL party. Even if they were much more popular than they are now, they aren't on enough states ballots to get to 270 even if they won every state they're in.

Focus on getting PSL candidates into house and Senate seats and making them more mainstream, not taking votes away from Democrats when the alternative is still Trump.

I’ve been staring at this for two hours but I still don’t get it.

Eh, First Past the Post is party suppression, tbh. When the math pushes us towards two parties, a third party is always at the cost of some other party that is nominally "on the same side".