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It's nonsense to assume that every vote for Stein in 2016 would have voted for Clinton. Most exit polls showed that people who voted for Stein or Johnson would not have voted in the first place. Hillary was a losing candidate from the start.
Nobody ever claimed “everybody”, just the “enough”, and the data actually reflects that. Even if they didn’t vote, Clinton would’ve won.
I voted for Stein for 2016 (before we knew what we know now), and I voted for Howie Hawkins in 2020. But then I lived in New York, and I knew my vote wouldn’t matter, so I could vote my conscience without threatening the concept of democracy. This year I am in Florida, and I damn well fucking know I’m gonna vote for Kamala Harris and a straight democratic ticket below that. Because I understand the consequences of my actions.
Anybody who cares about Green policy should vote against Trump.
Logically, yeah.
But if these voters were logical they would realize the issue with FPTP voting systems and not fuck with 3rd parties in the first place.
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Imagine supporting a political party so unappealing to a majority of the population, that you resort to blaming them when you don't win.
Trump was appealing enough to win. Was it that he was actually good or are a good portion of voters just fucking idiots?
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Nader is a mich better example. If 99% of the Florida Nader voters had stayed home and the remaining 1% voted for Gore, he would have won even with the Supreme Court's decision to stop the recount.
This tbh, if we don't want Green votes, make better reasons to them to vote the way you want them to vote. They vote green because they don't agree with the other candidates. They should fix that instead of complaining about it.
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For political accomplishments, she did managed to get invited to meeting with putin. You can't be just anybody. You have to give it to her.
As for the qualifications, trump showed us that you can do it at your own leisure, nobody will fire you if you won't do it.
This thread mostly shows how broken the democratic system in the US is, not that she did anything wrong. Try coming to a real democracy with many parties and coalitions being formed. They actually thrive on dissent, finding compromise and collaborating for the greater good ;)
Aside from having a friendly meal with Putin, I would say that disappearing for four years, only to suddenly show your face on election years to tear impressionable young, left-leaning voters away from a party that could actually win... that's not a good thing.
If she, or her party, were for real, they wouldn't disappear for four fucking years.
I just wish she, and all of her shills, would just crawl back into the hole they came out of. Hoping this happens in a couple of weeks when she inevitably falls off the face of the planet for another four years.
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Her buddy Putin definitely doesn't think she did anything wrong.
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She's has experience going to Russia.
...At which she shared a table with Vladimir Putin and disgraced National Security Advisor Michael Flynn.
Twisted mediocre bitch achieved everything she set out to do in 2016.
She must be very smug and proud of herself.
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Can we just say that, going forward, if you're over 70, we don't want you in ANY high pressure leadership role.
Your career is over. Shuffle the fuck off.
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Being President of the US is absolutely not the hardest job in the world if clowns like Trump and Bush could do it.
There's a difference in doing it and doing it well
Don't forget an endorsement from David Duke.
thats.. not how endorsements work. Endorsements dont imply any relationship.
I'm not saying that she isnt a peice of shit, she seems to be but we dont need to be making stuff up.
yes and no. this guy endorsing her is because he realizes she is their best shot at getting Trump to win.
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I'm not making shit up.
https://democrats.org/news/former-kkk-leader-david-duke-endorses-jill-stein/
That doesn't address what they said at all.
This should be the response to the comment from @[email protected]
Did Jill Stein disavow the endorsement? Stein's campaign says it wants nothing to do with the former American Nazi Party member.
According to herself it doesn't mean it isn't concerning or that she didn't earn it!
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Lists of accomplishments?
Being only relevant a few months during election season.
If the US had a single transferable vote system then you could comfortably vote for a third party, if you wanted to, without helping out the opponent you dislike the most.
You just rank the candidates, so you could rank Jill Stein as 1 if you want, then Harris as 2, and Trump below that. So then if Stein has fewer votes than Harris and Trump each have (likely) then her votes would transfer to whoever her voters ranked 2nd.
Under this system, a third party candidate is more likely to win (maybe you don't like Jill Stein, but conceivably a third party could produce a good candidate). The ballot under this system looks like this:
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"Hardest job in the world"?
please 🙄
I would’ve gone with “most important job in the nation,” personally.
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Stein has arranged a lot of good climate protests. Never held office though, as far as I can find.
She got elected to a town council in Lexington Massachusetts. A whopping 539 votes. The only successful campaign she's run.
How you go from that and 5 other failed election bids straight to running for President is not something I know- oh wait, I do. If someone puts you up to it.
Depends on how you define success. She seems to do very financially well on running in national elections every four years.
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