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According to GIMPS, this is the first time a prime number was not found by an ordinary PC, but rather a “‘cloud supercomputer’ spanning 17 countries” that utilized an Nvidia A100 GPU chip to make the initial diagnosis. The primary architect of this find is Luke Durant, who worked at Nvidia as a software engineer for 11 years

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[–] [email protected] 190 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I don't know why Nvidia is mentioned at all, except the hardware. That's cool that this person found the number, but Nvidia didn't do anything except employ them once upon a time and make a product that does a thing. It's not justified to celebrate the maker of a stove when a soup kitchen feeds everyone.

This is a win for Luke and GIMPS in general, and I'm happy for them.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is the first such prime that was discovered using GPU cloud computing. It's not just an incredible new discovery, but also a demonstration of what this type of hardware network may be capable.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I didn't use to do this, but with the world being on fire I feel like I should ask whether the amount of energy put into finding huge primes is really worth it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Why is anything worth the effort?

Cause research into primes makes computer security stronger. Cause research in general can make new discoveries that can lead to unexpected improvements in life.

Cause we need to know the answer to everything.

Cause it's better than mining crypto or doing AI training models over and over.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

We define people by their labor value in capitalist societies. It only makes sense headlines would refer to people thru the lens of their previous employer.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

They mention nvidia because that’s the hardware used to find/prove.

I find it quite relevant to have the person/ group, the strategy or method, and the device used (including chipsets). Most articles on prime number discovery will mention all these things.

The fact that he worked there seems pretty irrelevant tho.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

I wonder if he wrote some of the CUDA code or anything like that.

[–] [email protected] 134 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Wake up babe, new prime number just dropped.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 75 points 5 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Can I go with 6? I kinda like 6

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, but I bet it’s multiple of 6!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

oh buddy, I ... I've got terrible news for you ...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Half-Life 2136279841-1 confirmed.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 months ago

Babe wake up, new prime number just dropped.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (1 children)

this is the first time a prime number was not found by an ordinary PC, but rather a “‘cloud supercomputer’

The first time since the 90's, before that all computer assisted Mercel primes found were found by super computers.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No first time ever. This isn’t a supercomputer, it’s a distributed cloud network that they’re referring to as a supercomputer because it has a lot of power. It’s not a supercomputer in any other sense of the word, as it’s set up on cloud providers around the globe rather than in one location in the same room.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I don't know if this is a common feature of large primes, but the digits in the exponent (136,279,841) themselves represent a prime number.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

that does happen to be one of the defining characteristics of mersenne primes.

And searching for mersenne primes happens to be the easiest known way to find extremely large prime numbers (via the Special Number Field Sieve I believe)

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Me wondering why I haven't been able to deploy cloud instances with the A100 for an actual useful purpose for the past month

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It feels like people are celebrating this but hating on ai developments. not sure if these people are hypocritical or if that's two different groups of people.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do you mean to say that this achievement had something to do with AI?

Fermat PRP testing with proofs instead of Lucas-Lehmer testing with full double checks

Looks like pure mathematics to me.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think they're comparing the huge amount of computing power used for both AI and finding primes.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

Yes but when we use power to find new primes then we know them and can use them in cryptography, but if we use power on AI then we dilute current knowledge with fake knowledge. So it's a pretty stark contrast imo.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

You can dislike corporate hype around ai and celebrate someone finding a legitimate use case for ai.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Primes are actually useful..

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (11 children)

I don't understand this and therefore it's stupid and pointless. Fuck you math elitist assholes with your so-called "large" prime numbers spending billions of dollars that could be used to make my life better. I don't comprehend this at all and there it does not matter. The end.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, fuck those assholes that pursue science for the benefit of humanity! I do not see why anyone should be allowed to be creative if I do not see the benefit for me in particular.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

We need to decide democratically what science is, with everyone getting a fair vote, so wasteful science like this can finally be stopped.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Like voting on which science is right lol?

That's how we end up with solar roadways...

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is this Poe's law? I genuinely thought this was satire but the downvotes and responses are very serious!

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

If Jesus had wanted us to use prime numbers why did he turn the water into wine and not numbers? Checkmate atheists. /s

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

He must've been very anxious in order to count up to that...

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