What a joyful life for that kid. It's not his fault, but he'll be hated by his mom his entire life for it.
Edit: I am pro choice and fucking hate what our country is being turned into by the right.
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Not hated exactly, but there will be knowledge that they weren't wanted. They will blame themselves as kids tend to do. Trauma ensues. What a fucking unnecessary tragedy.
Nah hated is entirely possible. Depends entirely on the mother and if she has the emotional and rational capacity to separate it. If her brain makes her think of her rapist every time she looks at her child, it will be impossible to love it.
I hope she can love it but i wouldnt blame her if she cant.
I’ll blame any parent that forces their trauma onto an innocent child.
And I say this as a rape victim and a child abandoned at birth.
The whole idea of "trauma" is that its involuntary. You dont have a rational choice, your brain makes the choice for you.
If you have trauma of that level you either go with therapy or put your child up for adoption. Its not something you can solve with willpower.
Right and if you don’t do those things, and instead take it out on an innocent child I’m going to blame the fuck out of you.
I don’t mean to be even more dystopian, but doesn’t the biological father have to consent to adoption/get first rights to adopt?
As a parent who had a traumatic childhood, as well as partner to two raped AFABs, you don't "force" your trauma on your children, you have to force yourself to overcome your trauma to be a better person.
Trauma is fucking hard to deal with at the best of times when you don't have evidence of your traumatic even sitting in front of you all day every day. I can't comprehend the difficulty they would have to deal with everyday, but that also isn't an excuse to not be better, and the child absolutely deserves better.
What is an AFAB?
Assigned Female at Birth. It's an umbrella term that includes cisgender* women, transgender men, and non-binary people who were born with the anatomy typically associated with women.
*Cisgender means someone who's gender identity matches the sex they were assigned at birth.
Ah okay, thanks for explaining it, that abriviation is new to me.
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Kid is gonna read that article. Maybe now, maybe one day. Imagine reading an article about how your mom wishes desperately with all her heart that she didn't have you.
She loves you despite what you are, not because of it. Fuck me.
Yeah I want to admit up top that I have no fucking idea what the right approach is here.
I'm a new parent, but thankfully my kids aren't old enough for me to encounter complicated questions yet.
This might change, but right now my plan is to do my best to avoid cover stories for things. If you're open (as much as is appropriate) and honest (in the context of the delicate situation), that might be better than trying to hide this aspect of the kids ancestry.
As an adult I know that it's possible to simultaneously live a child while acknowledging that an abortion would have been a better option.
I honestly don't know whether a child can understand that.
The thing is, it's not just a conversation with a child. It's lived experience. I'm absolutely confident that my children (we have twins) will know that I love them because of my actions - the time I spend with them every day.
I'm thankful I don't have to navigate this. I would talk to a child psychologist or something to figure out the best way forward. I suspect that will always be communication, but an expert could help you know the best timing, things to watch out for, et cetera.
He'll probably starve to death too at the rate we're going.
She could have given him up for adoption, and had even set the stage for it, then decided against it. She had options, but made the decisions that she made. It isn't healthy to channel regret about what could have been into your kid or into political movements that hadn't even happened at the time when she made those decisions.
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I bet he even gets visitation rights. The GOP creates such a beautiful world.
Ugh. Stop.
I mean....you're not wrong factually, but all of this is wrong, and I'd just love to stop living now.
This is what Republicans want. They cannot imagine passing on their genes any other way.
This is absolutely what they want. Force the women into bad positions so they can be more exploitable. Force the children in these situations into bad positions so they can also be more exploitable.
Although, I am sure they prefer the good ol' days when they could just rape their slaves.
I read an article a few days ago that a Republican state argued that they needed to codify abortion bans because their teen pregnancy numbers were dropping.
and incest!
There was a study, which I cannot find anymore despite searching for it on google scholar for a half hour, where they looked at a group of people's sexual encounters over a month.
If you expanded 'rape' to be under the age of consent, one or more people involve had alcohol, one or more people were clinically 'drowsy' or asleep, verbal consent never was obtained, or type of sex act or use/none use of condom were not agreed upon by both parties; the researchers found roughly 50% of all sexual encounters in this group could be classified as rape in one way or another.
Makes you wonder what percent of the population is conceived via something that is technically rape.
How fucked. She told the army and they pretty much threatened to demote her. And when she told the rapist, he ghosted her. No one supported her in getting the abortion, and the adopted parents back out when she was six month. She wanted to work in the space program. That's so terribly tragic.
If the rape didn't ruin her life and steal her autonomy, the FORCED MOTHERHOOD absolutely did.
Death is too little of a punishment for the people enabling this
Cruel
I hope your country wakes up and votes for good
Let's say we do. Let's say Harris wins. In order to even attempt to fix this, Democrats will need to get rid of the filibuster.
They won't get rid of the filibuster.
The GOP wants to allow rapists to choose the mother of his children
Ya know I have nothing but respect for this woman takes a lot of willpower, probably would've killed the kid myself. But this is why im a guy and single, dont want to risk such instincts making me a monster. That and I aint got a uterus.
Same dude. Younger me would have confidently said something boneheaded like “I’d just drink and smoke until a miscarriage”, older me realizes I don’t have any semblance of capability to understand what must be going through this poor woman’s mind. And then even if she had tried something unorthodox to terminate the pregnancy, these sick fucks probably would have tried to put her in jail for it even though she’s the victim.
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Imagine being in your golden years and getting a phone call asking if you'd like to see your rape baby grandchild
Thanks trump!
That sounds about right unfortunately. They'd put her on light duty and send her for mental counseling. That would then be used to prevent promotions or re-enlistment.
I hear ya. And I'm prochoice, completely!
But BUT! It's not the baby's fault how it was conceived.
If you believe a fetus is a human being I don’t see how you could be pro choice, that’s how I understood your comment at least. Being pro choice is predicated on the idea that a fetus isn’t a human yet. I don’t know any people that can argue that a fetus is a human child at conception and also be pro choice.
Honestly we need to change the way we fight against abortion. The Republicans have successfully made the issue a “murder” issue when it’s really an issue of keeping government out of medical decisions as well as severe lack of education about sex. No women want an abortion , they just don’t want to be pregnant. If we fought to drive education about contraceptives and risks of unprotected sex abortion numbers would plummet.
I've heard arguments that abortion is justified even with fetus personhood because nobody has a moral obligation to serve as a host for anyone else without informed consent. You have the right to do anything whatsoever with your own body, regardless of how much someone else needs it.
We’ll that’s an argument I guess however consent is not the end all be all of free will. You can not give a fetus personhood and be pro choice because at that point you accept that abortion is murder, taking the life of another human. Your right to choose does not supersede another persons right to live.
Not to mention they consented by having unprotected sex (barring instances of rape of course)
(Disclaimer: this is an academic exercise to me because I don't believe fetuses are people)
It boils down to consent. If you didn't consent, then it's not murder to remove a parasite. My right to swing my fist ends at your face.
Even outside of rape, the claim that consenting to having sex is consenting to have a baby is a stretch.
they were able to reframe the 'signs of life' as 'when a heartbeat is detected' - yet it's not a heartbeat. it's not a fucking heart yet. And this isn't controversial interpretation, it's literal biological development. How can a 'heart' beat without VALVES? the entire concept is flawed.
We're talking about blastocysts growing into embryos. There aren't organs. There's a bit of goop that's trying to differentiate into many parts, it looks far more like something you'd sneeze out than a wee baby.
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This is how you empower rapists.
Even though my mother is part of the Democratic Party, she told me to vote no to limiting government interference for abortion. Guess what, I will vote yes to it.
Wow, you're not going to listen to your mother?? 😬
Well, I want less government intrusion for abortion. So, I voted yes to have abortion more accessible. Healthcare shouldn't be controversial.
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They can't put it up for adoption? Hell I'm my state you can take your unwanted baby to a church or fire station. Because the alternative is usually horrible. Then you still hear about psychos dumping their infants in dumpsters because they don't know about it or maybe didn't live in a state with that law.
That's your take away...adoption problem solved...
I have a novel idea take all that empathy for humans that don't exist yet and apply it to your fellow humans who are already here and need your help
This is so good for capitalism.
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