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Not to say that everyone that votes for Trump is a Nazi, but we do know who the Nazis are voting for.
Not to say that everyone that votes for Trump is a Nazi, ...
I'll say it. It's fascism. It's been fascism for a long time. People who vote for fascism are fascists.
I did some door knocking with Pence's former national security advisor last night and got to shoot the shit with her. Never thought I would be doing that.
Suffice to say, she is firmly in the camp of "he's a fascist," and according to her, what he says behind close doors is even scarier.
Also, she claims (like other Trump officials) that he doesn't give 2 shits about his voters behind closed doors. He views them as plebs to con that so he can accumulate more wealth and more power.
Fascism is correct, but Nazism is more accurate.
Although not all fascists believed in biological racism, it played a central role in the actions of those who did. Nazism was viciously racist, especially in its attitude toward Jews.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism/Varieties-of-fascism
I’m a broken record today, but please grab a few hours to phone bank or door knock with us today. Phone banking can be done on your couch, and you won’t feel like a POS if the fascists win and you could’ve spent 2 hours after dinner on a Sunday to secure a few more votes.
For the first time in my life I phone banked for Harris/Walz starting last month. I was expecting to be yelled at by Trumpers but that wasn’t the case. In case anyone is nervous about making the calls, you dont call Trump supporters, you call Dems and Independents to remind them it’s time to vote and how they can get information on voting. I haven’t had any nasty calls yet.
Correct. The calls are very targeted toward helping people correct a ballot that isn’t being counted, or helping / nudging sympathetic voters to get out.
A random volunteer ain’t going to be able to deprogram years of maga propaganda in a 2 minute phone call. Those calls are a waste of time. Turnout calls are more effective.
But how do you get their numbers? Just dial randomly and hang up if the person sounds Republican?
When you volunteer with a campaign, you don’t get the phone numbers and don’t use your actually cell phone. You use a dialer program where the campaign dials and connects you via your computer. So you click a button that says you are ready to do a call, the program then uses their phone system to dial someone in their system and it connects the call to you via your computer. The phone numbers come from wherever campaigns get their lists from.
Plus also make sure to encourage and remind any dem leaning people you know to get out and vote. Friends, family, neighbors, etc it makes more of a difference than you might think
And bring a friend of your phone banking. Grab a beer, have fun with it. It’s not hard and you’re going to be targeting sympathetic voters, not the maga brainwashed.
Also also worth noting that there's also even phone banking on Tuesday on election day too if you want something to do that day beyond just voting (if you have not yet voted)
Hey, I was working solo through a 42-door canvass list when I saw your post, it was encouraging!
Anyone ever have a good experience making or receiving these calls?
The door knocking is definitely more of a positive thing, but I got about 2-3 effective calls in a 2 hour window.
And if you get 50 people in a phone bank, that can translate to 100 ballots cured and or people at the polls.
And when you’re talking about elections that are won by hundreds of votes, that phone time matters.
Why is everyone waiting for the perfect choice that will never come?
I'm thinking through the last half dozen presidents and I don't see how Kamala is far worse than any of them, that people are making comments like this
Lots of reasons, really. Some of them are disenfranchised with the system, some of them are probably part of a Russian campaign, and some of them are just idiots.
December edit for clarification: while I would have preferred the country didn't shift towards accelerated corruption under Trump, the people who are disenfranchised with the options available in the two-party system had an entirely valid reason to be.
This is the saddest state of affairs ever. When your campaign is “it could be worse” it’s an insult to the working classes intelligence.
But that's not the campaign. This is citizens telling other citizens that not casting a vote IS voting - for the obviously worse candidate.
The “it could be worse” is “US is having a president who’s fine with using military action against his political opponents”, aka dictatorship.
Not just military action. Vigilantism and pardons. I'm waiting for him to make it clear that if you're going to murder someone who opposes Trump, make sure to transport them across state lines, so that it's a federal crime that he can pardon you for.
No, I’d say it’s exactly what we deserve.
Imagine if we had to vote for a national ice cream flavor. It would probably end up being pretty unpalatable for most people, but it’s the only one we can get even a plurality of people to vote for.
That's a factor of our first-past-the-post system. We end up having to strategically vote against the ice cream we don't want instead of for the ice cream we do want.
It's a sad state of affairs when a politician that cares about her country isn't enough to get people to vote against a literal fascist who fantasizes about being a dictator.
And probably you should look at your ballot and vote for democratic people like Democratic representatives or local government on the democratic party. When you do that, next election will be easier to win by the Democrats. That way we can take a breather and finally abolish the stupid electoral college. It's 2024, we can easily vote by phone 🤳. Give people a nice moth to vote on....like July maybe? So they can take a free day to vote when there are no hurricanes or snow pack or whatever bullshit happens in October. And then change over to a new government the next month.
Great in theory, but there are too many people who fellate the god of tradition while stroking the hard-on of American exceptionalism and are unwilling to look at any other example of functioning government.
Great in theory, but there are too many people
This is defeatism and giving up before you even try.
My state recently started allowing early voting, I voted Saturday. This year a minimum wage raise and an attempted pre-emptive ban of RCV proposition were both on the ballot. That old trope about "if you don't vote you can't complain" is true and we all have to participate and try to make the changes we want.
No reason to vote for militarized borders, death to the planet, increased police violence and on and on which is what both the democrats and republicans will produce. Organize outside of electoralism.
Perfect is the enemy of good.
Genocide isn't a good. Further militarizing the border and expanding the violence against immigrants isn't a good. Continuing police violence isn't a good. I can keep going.
So vote for the known nazi instead?
Whether you like it or not, one of the two are going to win and run the country. I'd rather try to keep it from being the nazis.
I see, these are the only issues to be concerned about. Yup, that's it. There is nothing else at all. Well I guess we should just sit on our hands as others bleed. /s
Maybe vote for someone who is more likely to negotiate over these issues. I wonder who is more likely to listen.
There is no indication that either candidate would listen or would have any motivation to listen. Genocide support should be a non starter but you just don't care I guess.
only Vote Harris because a Trump vote means fascism even though getting corralled into only one choice is fascism too?
when both choices are fascists only chance is riots
US has had plenty it just needs another one
This comment is evidence that the Russian version of ChatGPT doesn't have a definition for fascism.
Just saying there is no Russian version, it's just ChatGPT, the Russians are using ChatGPT for information warfare against the West.
Best and also only choice to beat a Nazi
If Kamela wins, she MUST reorganize the US political system. She'll be the no limits president, Supreme Court said so, she can do whatever she wants.
Cut the shit with the electoral college. Just direct voting
No more winner takes all. The US needs 30 political parties, not two
Get rid of unlimited terms for any government office, especially for the supreme Court
Just three basic things, but the real list is much, much longer.
If Trump wins then it doesn't matter, you'll be living in a dictatorship for the rest of your miserable lives..
For fucks sake. Everyone, just vote for a candidate that best represents you, not to cancel another vote. Good luck out there.