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[–] [email protected] 101 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Its all fun and games until the Canadians show up.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 6 months ago (2 children)

As an American, we made a mistake in not adopting those. Torx or whatever isn't even as good.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Torx is better than whatever this Canadian abomination is. You'd only put pressure on the corners in a realistic setting. These would get rounded so fast unless they are massive, like on some differentials or gearbox oil drains.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This guy mechanics

Indeed torx is so good because it attempts to maximize the surface where pressure is applied to. This is good on smaller sized bolts that are more prone to being rounded, but especially amazing when removing bolts that may have been exposed and potentially corroded

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, hex is very nice but torx is improvement over it.

I have not checked on it, but I'm like 97.25% sure wood screws jumped from Philips to torx however because of corrosion resistance. Hex is very easy to round already as is on smaller sizes, but even more so if the head is exposed to elements and corroded. Of course material matters a lot, but even stainless corrodes over time.

Torx has to be very, very bad condition for it to round, it's more likely for the screw to snap

Sorry for drunk rambling but I really like bolts. And bearings for what it's worth

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Curious how "really like bolts. And bearings!" is working out on your Tindr profile?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Luckily I've never had a tinder profile. And my wife liked my nuts so we're good

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Never had or seen a stripped Robertson, they are robust AF. Don't ask me the physics. (They go deep into the screw head because of the simple shape, maybe that has part of it. And they are tapered, it's not just a square, so they manage to grip the bit like a mofo. You don't cam out of a Robertson.)

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Germany has entered the chat.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I've stripped more internal hex than all other types combined

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

We have to go deeper.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Disappointed that the first comment isn't, "May the Torx be with you"

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That may have been the actual post title I was looking for.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

These aren’t the post titles you’re looking for… 👋

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I changed it after the fact but I went with torque instead of Torx because it seemed to make more sense. IYKYK.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Thought it was gonna be the Phillip's head strip

[–] [email protected] 59 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Even in a galaxy far far away everything is still made in china

Edit: at least they didn't use Phillips screws

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

Can't get more spacey screws than those. They basically look like galaxies

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

That's because they were worried someone would have taken them off.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Turns out the laws of physics and geometry are the same everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Even in fictional universes that have wizards in space with swords made of light?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (23 children)

Can we all agree that flathead should be outlawed and Phillips needs to get phased out with a quickness

Why are there so many fasteners 8min : https://youtu.be/5cA9bZRHpZE

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Officially, "flathead" refers to countersunk screws. Slotted screws are terrible for my purposes, but they actually do have 1 advantage. If they get mud or something caked up in the slot it's relatively easy to use a knife or some other pointy thing to clean it out. Guns and other things used in dirty environments often use slotted fasteners for that reason.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it also really difficult to strip a Flathead slot.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hey, if it works it works.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago (4 children)

It works, but badly. All my homies hate cam-out and love torx.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ironically enough other standards appeared because of the need of more torque.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago

Um, actually, those are rigid kal'dron adjustment pins used to correct focus crystal orientation.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago

Somehow, Phillips head survived.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

Preventing cam-out with a Phillips screw is like learning the ways of the Force. It takes patience and skill, something the Empire’s rigid Torx would never understand.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

No wonder the Jedi failed.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Bet it’s an inch screw too

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You'd think that they would have switched to Pozidriv.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (9 children)

Why? Torx is better in every way. If you are going to change, why half ass it to Phillips 2.0

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

May the Philips be with you.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Why wouldn't they? It's an efficient design, and aside from the whole force thing they seem to be working with the same physics that we are. Why wouldn't they invent philips head screws?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

This is a bit of a pet peeve of mine - it's designed purely for automation. That's why it's tapered, to allow power tools to slip out before they break. That's good for automation in the *1930s (EDIT: I've realised that in a few years it will be the 30s again and maybe I shouldn't leave this so ambiguous in light of that), not so good for hand tools or any modern tool with a torque limiter.

You're much better off with hex or torx, or even the square driver, which is much more tolerant of imperfect handheld tool usage.

The only reason phillips is still used is because it's ubiquitous, it's very much a historical oddity. It's okay for many tasks but unfortunately the slipping out behaviour can destroy the screws very quickly.

https://www.ifixit.com/News/9903/bit-history-the-phillips

I mean it's conceivable they'd come up with something similar, and it would be weird to expect a props department to find different screw heads just to be lore accurate.

Edit: Plus it's common today, which means from a prop design standpoint it communicates the idea that it's hand-built, because just about everyone has a phillips head screwdriver, so seeing it tells you it's something you can work on. I think that's the main reason it would be there. Jedi are supposed to make their own lightsabers.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

They strip like a mf.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Oh man, this is 100% real. Disney is such garbage...

Rey Poster

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Meh, it's one of those things that's going to be around forever. I would be absolutely unsurprised if crosshead screws were still a thing in 4800 ce.

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