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[–] [email protected] 136 points 3 months ago (4 children)

NDT the goat of saying rly dumb shit but everyone thinks it's somehow enlightening. he's like Jaden smith but Twitter likes him

[–] [email protected] 92 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I mean I agree with him here. It's ridiculous how we are still this tribalistic species while basically everyone would be better off when we would work together (e.g. climate change would be non-existent)

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Passports weren't a general concept until the end of the 19th century. Before they were mostly to allow passage to certain areas inside one country, rather than for movement between countries. There have been Identifications for Nobels and Diplomats though.

Anyways the whole concept is mostly a concept of modern nation states not of ancient tribalism.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (8 children)

I think the point is that the tribalism led to the creation of the nations/states in the first place. I don't know enough to know if that's true, but that was my interpretation of their comment.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but... did you know, if you kiss a mirror you will always kiss yourself on the lips. How's that?

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 3 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago

We live in a patchwork of societies, I think is the thing

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Bottom text

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Wait til you learn that the reason you hate immigrants and immigration is that the wealthy conditioned you to hate them. Notice how capital can cross borders, but people can't? This allows the wealthy to profit off of international arbitrage, while regular citizens can't. A CEO can move a factory to a low cost country to save on labor, but you in a wealthy country can't move there to save on cost of living. And the citizens in a poor country can't move to a wealthy country to earn better wages. The corporations get to take advantage of international arbitrage, but you don't.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Corporations are people except when they're conveniently not!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

This is clearly a completely natural phenomenon, like the weather !

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 months ago (3 children)

This dude really is a pompous ass sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Agreed he can be pompous but I think since he's an astronomer he is making the point that if you were in space and looked at earth you would wonder why are there borders

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Because it turns out sociology, anthropology and politics also exist.

If you were in space and looked at Earth you wouldn't see any people.

EDIT: Crap, someone is going to point out that you can see lights at night, aren't they? This thread is for pedants and now I've started a conversation about biomarkers you can see from orbit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm going to point out that you edited without editing.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What about this tweet reads as pompous to you?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (4 children)

“If everyone was as wise as me, I wouldn’t suffer this tiresome charade”

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well, he's ridiculing the fact that everything we have setup for governance is, in fact, made up. I don't see why that's pompous. I know his tweets tend to be a bit too pedantic for certain topics, but that is his persona. He is one of the few peopeople responsible for this generation finding science cool. He's allowed that much.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 months ago (9 children)

I don't care if you hate him; he's right on this. this entire thing is bullshit.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I love all the posts calling him arrogant and elitist for pointing out something, in a critical manner, that by their nature are arrogant and elitist: nation state borders.

Those things that make people who've done nothing feel entitled to more resources than other people by virtue of where their mother was hanging out when she popped them out.

I think dwelling on their artifical, self-serving nature is healthier than taking them seriously in any other sense than the threat of state violence for failing to pretend that they're sacred.

Humanity, not to be confused with your own individual greed or birth lottery results, would be far better off abolishing them. They bring nothing to the table but dehumanization, death, and inequity. Most, even most who consider themselves to be on the privileged side of the imaginary line in the dirt, have far more in common with the people trying to get to the privileged side than the miniscule populations of sociopath humans that use them to secure and metastasize their ego score hoards, the entire point of them.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yes and no.

Borders may not mean a lot when you just pop out of your mother.

But when you have worked 30-50 years building a place in a certain way you may actually have some legit entitlement on all that you built and worked for.

It's a complex issue. We've seem some countries have bad issues because bad inmigration politics.

I know it's against the dogma to even dare to talk about inmigration policies with anything that's not "open borders". It's a sin and the inquisition will promptly come after me for just mentioning that massive inmigration did not improve one particular country. And that a too "welcoming" policy was a proved failure.

But reality beats any kind of dogma, propaganda or illusion. And as rational thinking human beings, when the dogma fails we are required to actually notice it and act accordingly.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (17 children)

How do the people living in squalor benefit despite working usually even harder with less protections than that worker who worked 30-50 years having their building being protected from those people's opportunity to do the same? What's wrong with that worker's 30-50 years of building yielding a little less so that none of them toil 30-50 years for basically nothing? The one born on side A isn't more deserving on the basis of being birthed on side A, that's nonsensical.

You seem to be looking at this from a tiny nation state citizen concerned about threats from "the other" viewpoint rather than a holistic, humanistic viewpoint.

Self-serving self-interest doesn't impress me. In most cases, such notions should be socially condemned. It's the reason humanity is on the brink of destroying our habitat and are currently killing one another all over.

The most destructive notion humanity was ever inspired to have was "ok... But what's in it for me?" Only cruelty, greed, and gluttony has ever come from such lines of thought.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Had to put on pants to go outside due to artificially created laws.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I dunno I kind of hate sitting where someone else's sweaty ass has sat on first. I'll let this one slide.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think it actually is interesting if you're going to call out humans as a species of animal!

All across species from unicellular to megafauna, from plants to fungus, you can find mechanisms used to defend an individual's physical territory. Ants and bees from the same species will fight and kill others colony members of they stray into their territory. Bears will fight and kill other bears. Our closest relatives, chimps, will go to war with neighboring chimp bands.

Artificial borders are humans way of saying "this is my territory enter at your own risk". The REALLY interesting thing is that we have established systematic exceptions to the behaviors we see in nature. "Ask us before you come and you can visit and be safe here from those that enforce our territory."

The temporary nature is unique, many social animals will permanently adopt an outsider into their group on occasion, equivalent to immigration, but I'm not aware of any that have pre-agreed temporary violations of group territory.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Only plebs wait in line. I put my request in an envelope, a government servant picks it up at my door and takes it to more government servants who do all the work before hand delivering it back.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Black science man always talks like he's done weed for the first time and is trying to impress his nephew's friends.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I fucking hate this guy so much. He wants to be carl sagan or stephen hawking so badly, but hes ignorant as fuck and all his 'deep thoughts' are shallower than a puddle.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It would be fine if he didn't talk with such a pretentious tone.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes borders are bullshit, but he really doesn't have to come across all high and mighty about it

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I'm not convinced that he knows how to come across in any other way

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hits the joint "borders man"

This is not interesting.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

PSA: If all you have to do is wait in line, you're privileged af

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (9 children)

I think about this a few times a year and I become sad each time. We only get this one planet in the whole ass universe. And we can barely see all of it, unless we're lucky and/or rich (at least moreso than most of humankind).

It's profoundly ridiculous.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Maybe it's because I know autistic people, but NDT's obtuse starry-eyed splaining never triggered me as much as it seems to others.

He's an astrological trapped on a planet. What do you expect

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

He somehow managed to make border abolition sound uncool. Many people don’t agree with it for many reasons, none of which were it being uncool until this tweet

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If I said the shit that fart smeller says people would literally say “shut up stoner” to me.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (3 children)

This is a call for world federalism. I support it, but it's probably ahead of our time. A democratic world federation (a truly united nations [of earth] perhaps) would be able to more effectively solve many (global) problems.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

As if humans weren’t fiercely tribalistic forever. Other species beat each other to death, too.

The post may be right, but getting a bunch of homo sapiens from far away not to club each other to death is, historically, a hard problem, and countries and passports are kinda a stepping stone.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

oh this bloviating asshat

Yeah fuckface, borders are this thing in geopolitics which ALSO involves OTHER sovereign nations that might not WANT your fucking moron face there

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Missing the message because you hate the messenger.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (6 children)

What is the message? That borders are dumb?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's crazy to think that the level of border control we have today would be unfathomable to someone even 100 years ago. If we go a bit earlier, how could you even ID someone without photographs?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

This needs one of those bell curve memes.

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