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[–] [email protected] 127 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

And then what happened?
That must be really hard for you.
Wow. You don’t deserve that.
How do you feel about it now?
Ugh. That sounds awful.
You’re handling this better than I would.
How do you even respond to that?
Tell me about it.
What can I do to help?
You’ve got this, but I’m here.

Edit: I wrote the above to illustrate how many options there are in the parlance of active listening. The formula is simple: imagine how they feel and join their side or, if you can’t yet imagine, ask questions until you can. That’s it.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Look at mister "I leave the basement twice a week" over here

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

In the land of the ~~blind~~ awkward the ~~one eyed~~ I dunno less awkward I guess man is king

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Thanks, man. I needed that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Awesome list! Much better than a list I would make 🙂

I would just change slightly the “What can I do to help?” (That is a call for a “nothing”) to “How can I help?” (That shows much more enthusiasm in wanting to help)

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 3 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (4 children)

This is slowly being replaced by 👍ing or ❤️‍ing the message. No actual words needed.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I find that the variety of emotes people have available on discord say more than I probably would half-ass with words. At least with memes, if I'm having a conversation I will not be using emotes.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Haha so true!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Haha so true!

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That sucks. Definitely push the last one. This happened to me one time in band camp

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

That sucks but this reminds me of...

...and that's how I became king of the pirates, well anyways you should invest into my NFT cryptoAI trust me bro this gonna go to the moon!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Good thing he has three things to push all the buttons with......

[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 months ago (3 children)

"Frankly, you brought this all on yourself" usually resolves it quickly, in my experience.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

That sucks.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Hello, we'd like to offer you a position as police chief in a neighborhood that will statistically have a school shooting soon.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Ah drawing aggro like a true tank.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"That's rough, buddy" is my goto.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago

"my first girlfriend turned into the moon"

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Its not that bad stop being a pussy" Works 30% of the time everytime.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Pussies are pretty tough though. Balls on the other hand ... too warm, too cold, don't touch me, you'll hurt me. :)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Or maybe ask what they need from you? Just a thought.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Empathize, "I can imagine how much that must have hurt, I'm sorry you had to deal with that"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

“I can’t say I would’ve known what to do, had I been in your position.”

“I can only imagine what that must have been like for you, which understandably likely isn’t of much consolation to you.”

“It would be disingenuous of me to presume to know what it was like for you to have experienced what you endured, but I am happy to listen to what you have to say, if you wish to tell me.”

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

4: "I can help you hide the body if you want."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

“What can I do to help?”

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Stop trauma dumping on me, do I look like a licensed therapist?"

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"Cool story bro, did I ever tell you about that time I took an arrow to the knee?..."

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lol that's basically a therapist, minus the second option.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

You might need to try a different therapist.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

That sucks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I can't tell whether this is supposed to be advice on what to do or not. I can certainly see people getting upset at all of them for putting your feelings and perspective at the forefront however.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

"that's crazy"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Tell a related story is best choice because it shows that you really feel what that person is coming through since you've came through similar situation yourself

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

that's what neurodivergent people do to show sympathy - very often unknowingly. folks sometimes think we do that to get the attention for ourselves, but it's just a long winded way of saying "i understand what you feel, you're not alone in your pain"

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

But then you are making this about yourself. Stealing the show. Reaping all the sympathy.

[–] Squirrelanna 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

It all depends on how you say it. Some people just genuinely do need to know someone understands them at face value. Adding your own experiences and using that to validate their feelings rather than overshadow them is an invaluable practiced skill. It also allows you to layer advice into how you convey it, sometimes without them even realizing that's what you're doing.

A great way to do this subtly is to ask them questions that help you find VERY close similarities that open the door to a segway into your own experience. Example:

"Oh man, that's horrible. Hitting a roadblock like that sucks so much. Did you have to deal with [related thing] too?"

"YES and it only piled onto my stress. Ughhhhh."

"I know all too well. It's the worst and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I'm so sorry. If it helps, I could go through what I did. It's not exactly the same, but maybe something that helped me will resonate? But I understand if you'd rather just vent. My ear's always open."

The trick is usually asking if they want to hear it. Then you know for SURE whether or not to proceed, and you've framed it in such a way that is less about you and more about investigating ways the shared experience can inform how they handle the issue themselves, or how the differences can add better insight into their own trouble.

Source: I have severe ADHD that has a side effect of being extremely empathetic due to comorbid RSD. The result being a heightened awareness to how others are feeling, subconsciously taking that onto myself (for better and for worse), and subsequently feeling compelled to do what I can to help resolve it. What I described above is the most graceful way I've found to resolve my own quirks while also benefitting those relying on me for comfort and usually advice through this framing.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

"I'm sorry for your loss. Move on."

"It's not like you've lost a pen, is it? It's so much worse... Would you like a pen? I have a spare one. ...Please take it."

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

All of them, this is a QuickTime event. You have to feel out what they're looking for. You have to hit the buttons in order and with the right timing

First - that sucks. Show empathy and active listening, see if they have more to say. Let them get it out

Next - you have to decide, are they more upset, or more stressed

Upset - story time, show sympathy. Keep it light on the details, and don't try to draw comparisons - keep it at the emotional level.
Then advice time - again, keep it brief and vague

Stressed - advice, lay out options rapid fire and see if they latch onto any. If they don't, story time - tell them about similar situations, without drawing emotional comparisons, where you got past it more easily than expected

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