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Illustrations of history

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This magazine is for sharing artwork of historical events, places, personages, etc. Scale models and the like also welcome!

Generally speaking, actual photos of a historical item should go to !historyartifacts@lemmy.world

Photos of ruins should go to !historyruins@lemmy.world

Photos of the past should go to !HistoryPorn@lemmy.world

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[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 74 points 3 months ago (4 children)

It never occurred to me that the origins of the word "undermine" might have involved actual mining.

[–] brrt@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 months ago

I see you understand now. Wait. Under stand? I don’t…

[–] CheeryLBottom@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

smacks forehead I never thought of that

[–] greenhorn@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Does it suggest one can overmine?

[–] sawdustprophet@midwest.social 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Does it suggest one can overmine?

"I overstand."

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

Unpossible!

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago

Another use of undermine is when there’s flood and a river gets a ton of water going through it, it can undermine an overpass and take a bridge out without even going over it.

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Wonder how many commanders had their diggers... just keep digging until collapse.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 38 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Tunneler: "Is this safe?"

Very Brave Commander, yelling down the tunnel from the surface: "Probably! Just keep going!"

[–] thirdBreakfast@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

"And light a big fire down there!"

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

You sort of need to know when the wall collapses. If it collapses too early, you can't press your advantage, and if it collapses too late, then your troops will be under enemy fire for quite some time while they wait for the wall to collapse.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I would definitely prefer to use a flaming arrow for step 2.

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 3 months ago

“Flaming arrows are not required and no budget is allocated.”

[–] petersr@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)
  1. How do they know how far to dig?

  2. Are there any cases where it is smarter to dig all the way under the wall and then up? (stealth operation anyone?)

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)
  1. Math/measurement. If the distance is 100 yards and if you don't hit the wall after 100 yards, something has gone wrong.

  2. Generally, the enemy will be on watch (or rather, on the listen) for tunnelers, so the further you go, the higher the chance that you'll be intercepted and killed. Tunneling is slow besides, so you won't be able to get more than a handful of troops through at a time - perfect for an enemy to get the opportunity to rally their own forces and make that tunnel into a bloody bottleneck for your men. Nonetheless, there are a few examples, such as the Siege of Veii where just that technique worked out.

[–] 5ibelius9insterberg@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago

„They quickly overwhelmed the Veientines and began a general massacre.“

RUDE

[–] DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Sappers gonna sap!

[–] iknowitwheniseeit 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Mostly self-inflicted when I play Dwarf Fortress....

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

A SECTION OF THE CAVERN HAS COLLAPSED

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago

Haha relatable