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I was wondering about this as it was brought up recently.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Who fuckin cares all religion is a power play

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ya know there's caring about religion and there's curiousness. I don't care about the catholics but I'm curious about the torture methods of the Spanish Inquisition...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Ya know I'll say this, on a reread it's not entirely clear that op wants to learn about halal to further it's use/application.

I assumed that much, cause fuck organized religion, but it may not have been their intent.

I stand by my original comment but acknowledge the target of my ire may not be OP

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

While this may be the case, it is still an important question for anyone who wants to open a restaurant or market.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Or just don't offer halal or any other religious hoop

[–] Semjaza 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, because starting up a new restaurant is so easy to turn a profit turning away customers is a good idea? Am I right?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You mean the 99%+ that wouldn't care?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

That’s pretty regional dependent

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Learning about other ways to live, act, think and perceive is important if you want to understand the world you live in.

More importantly, to you at least, if you want to change other people caught in said powerplay, you have to listen to them. Forcing them to listen to you, will only make them grab harder at their own beliefs.

And one could argue talking with out listening is a powerplay of its own.

Merry Christmas

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

No need to further patriarchal, genocidal, child rape cults on the fediverse.

And no, this isn't targeted islamiphobia because what I just said applies to many more than just Islam.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance#%3A%7E%3Atext=The+paradox+of+tolerance+is%2Cthe+very+principle+of+tolerance.

Edit I don't need to learn about meal prep routines to competently reject bigoted ideologies

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

Halal is more than just how an animal is treated/slaughtered. That's a big part of it, but there's ethics beyond food. And of course there's interpretation so we'll see variations in meaning from different cultures and people.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

I thought halal was just bleeding out an animal while the heart still beats, praying for it?
Is there actually different rituals for the equipment as well?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They have to use separate equipment for all halal foods than non-halal. They have to use special cleaning supplies that are compliant and have no non-Halal ingredients.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You just defined the reason for asking the question without in any way answering it...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's cleaned with different chemicals

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (2 children)

How are they different? It's halal brand soap and that's the difference?

"How is halal stuff done differently?"

"Oh, you have to do it differently." / “it's cleaned with different chemicals."

.... Neat. You can tell it's different by how it is... I guess.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

"Ok, so how do I do it?"

"Differently."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

These chemicals are different than that of non-halal chemicals

"Diatomaceous Earth (DE): Widely used as a halal-compliant cleaning agent, DE is effective in physically scrubbing and purifying surfaces. It is mixed in specific ratios with water depending on the type of utensils, equipment or area being cleaned. Natural Detergents: Plant-based detergents free from animal derivatives and alcohol are recommended for halal sanitation. These detergents should have verified halal status to ensure compliance. Non-Ethanol-Based Disinfectants: Disinfectants containing isopropyl alcohol or other permissible alcohols can be used, as they are considered mubah (permissible) in sanitation processes as long as they leave no detectable residue in the finished product."

https://halalfoundation.org/halal-sanitation-guidelines-and-checklist/#:~:text=Diatomaceous%20Earth%20(DE):%20Widely,DE%20to%207%20parts%20water.

And procedural what OP might have been looking for when something has been contaminated but IDK the full requirements as to whether this part is truly followed since there are Halal restaurants in my part of the US, idk if they do this part:

"2.4 Sertu (Ritual Cleansing) Sertu is a ritual cleansing process used when major najis such as porcine or dog contaminants has come into contact with a product surface or equipment. This process involves washing the contaminated area seven times, with at least one wash including a mixture of water and earth, to purify the area both physically and spiritually."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Cool thanks!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean, not for a lot of food production. We had Halal cert at our grain mill and a few other places I've worked at, and we never treated the food differently. Same with Kosher. They just send someone out to extort your business for certificate renewal.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

You're supposed to. If they don't they are lying to their customers. They don't want it to touch the grills that were used for pork etc.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago

Grain mills don't usually have things touching pork though