For anyone who's struggling, I just want you to know that I basically permanently cured my depression, the semi-powerful mushroom trip. During the trip essentially took a side step left in my brain that didn't fix my problems but fixed the way that I perceived them and how I tackle them. It has since been about 4 years since that trip and the effect s on my attitude and personality have been long lasting. I will say as a word of caution that my attachment to traditional capitalism and some other more normal things in life has definitely waned but I still make my payments and stuff without incident but I just care less. This shit should not be illegal especially compared to alcohol and cigarettes.
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Ingesting this substance can lead to deep thinking about the morality of our economic, political, and social systems, as you noted. That is exactly why they are illegal.
They help massively with my depression too, although I feel I need to take them 2-4 times each year to keep the effect. If anyone is considering taking them for their mental health, the most important things to do are take them in a place you feel safe, with a person or people you trust. I recommend stopping all mental health medication for three days before you take them. If you cannot handle going without medication for three days you probably shouldn't take mushrooms.
I also recommend taking an eighth of a dry ounce. You can increase the dose next time. Anything less is essentially microdosing, unless you weigh 100 pounds or something.
Oh and you develop near immediate immunity to the mental effects of psilocybin. Don't think you can eat half now then eat half later. The second half won't work. In fact you'll be highly resistant to them for a couple of weeks at least. This is a blessing because you can't get addicted!
Note that mushrooms or other drugs acting on the serotonin system like LSD, DMT or MDMA must absolutely not be taken while also taking SSRIs or MAOs. It risks inducing a Serotonine Syndrom, which can easily be fatal.
This is important to note although I think it's extremely rare with LSD, DMT, or Psilocybin. More common with MDMA.
So yeah just another reason to quit taking your mental health medication three days before. I do not recommend taking them if you are on an SSRI or MAOI, just as this person pointed out.
Yeah. Psychedelics aren't the work, but they may very well change how the work goes.
But try reading about your issues and how to resolve them first. Acid pointed a mirror at my face and told me how I was fucking up, but understanding psychological concepts told me how to do better.
Recommending an unsupervised mushroom trip to cure depression to random people is just reckless.
People get drunk all the time and they're way more likely to be victimized or hurt.
Thats like the more people killed by cows than sharks thing.
There are more cows and people near cows than sharks and people near them.
As a "socially" acceptable and legal drug, more people use alcohol than shrooms so of course the incident rate is higher.
Are we so pacified that an adult can't just eat some mushrooms? We can't even let kids out to play all day or some fictional fuck will snatch them up!
The only things tripping people need to worry about is the same things we'd normally worry about. Stay inside if it's your first time. If you're so scared of life that you can't fathom taking a great life affirming substance, maybe do therapy first.
For me my bad trip basically gave me ptsd ten years ago. I was prone to getting panic attacks though.
Sorry to hear that, regular shrooms user myself. It's often been said it all depends on (mind)set and setting. Do you reckon your bad trip could've been prevented in any way? Was there an experienced user present that could've calmed you down? OR do you reckon you were just prone to panic attacks and the shrooms would've magnified that no matter what?
i had a semi-bad trip (on ecstasy) and i think i was just not expecting the effect to be so strong. i took half a pill, and the first hour was intense but the second one knocked me off my feet and made me cry uncontrollably.
still worth it though.
so, my advice to anyone who tries it for the first time is: LOW-DOSE. you have no idea how it will affect you, but you can stay safe by essentially trying with a very low dose first.
Would it upset you too much to explain how this went down?
It could help people that are worried about something similar.
I just got so many panic attacks during my trip. Of course, I didn't understand what they were but thought I had lost my mind for good instead. Time stopped, I couldn't think straight, couldn't calm myself down, at times I couldn't parse other people's speech and everything was just damn scary the whole time. And felt like an eternity.
After the trip, I was afraid of anything I deemed "not normal" for months. I got scared by my vision going black when blinking, the occasinal weird joke someone would make, bird noises in the winter, awkward social situations, anything you could imagine being "not normal". Now after ten years, I occasionally get that when something peculiar happens, but it's not a constant thing as it used to be. Maybe once a day I get "half triggered" by something but usually I can calm myself down.
I think the whole bad trip was caused by me being generally prone to getting panic attacks (which I hadn't even realized yet), and bad set and setting. Dark outside, with friends that I didn't fully trust.
Sounds like what you needed was someone you trust, that's sober, that would tell you: 'listen, you are currently under the influence of this drug, that effect will pass and you'll go back to normal, nothing terrible has happened, you are just having a panic attack that's being magnified by the drugs, but really, nothing bad has happened, none of this will last, the drugs will lose their effect soon, and there is nothing to worry about except for your panic attack right now, that must be very uncomfortable. so let's try to calm down, let's focus on breathing together for a bit so we can stop your panic reaction.
In my experience such words can make a world of difference, a moment of fear can be turned round, back into a pleasant experience. I've regretted not having a sitter present when I introduced LSD to some friends. One of them got a message on his phone, that got him very confused, and although we managed to calm him down eventually, he experienced some severe panic, that I feel I could've handled a lot better when I was sober, but unfortunately I was also under the influence. I myself having taken psychedelics monthly for over a decade now, I tend to underestimate the psychological risks for new users, that's what I took from that experience, and I won't let it happen again. Psychedelics always need proper set and setting, and new users should have an experienced, familair tripsitter present, always. My friend didn't have lasting negative effects from the experience but your story proves that it's definitely risky and measures should be taken to always take them with precaution.
I usually have a strong trip about once a year. It's definitely not for everyone though. For me, it ablates habitual mental patterns and understandings. Almost everything turns symbolic that is thrust from the subconscious whether I'm ready for it or not. It's something that everyone should have access to if you're willing to open up to yourself.
sadly my friend, within your comment is the reason why it's illegal - if people universally cared less about money, there wouldn't be enough people to steal labour from :(
well, it started with the fact they had to arrest the hippies for something, god forbid people care enough about the lives of brown foreigners strongly enough to protest their country killing them. looks bad to arrest those wanting peace so, arrest them for having a drug that makes them more compassionate!
Oh damn shots fired 😂😳
certified "have you tried working on your inner self" moment.
Explanation: sometimes, mental health problems don't only come from internal misfits, but simply from enormous pressure from the environment. (such as in my case.) it's important to take care of externalities, not just seek the problem within yourself.
This post is making fun of people who think they're fixing their life by having "epiphanies" after taking magic mushrooms multiple times a week and then not doing anything about those epiphanies when they're sober.
Source: I used to do that
You’ll see it in trust fund kids back from festivals. They learn that other humans have feelings, which is really mind blowing, but as far as changing behavior in any way…
"Your life isn't shitty, the System that we live our lives in is"
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Wayne Gretzki
- Michael Scott
-Anonymous
I thought I could just bury my problems under a truckload of christmas cookies.
That's precisely what those outings are for...
I've also heard it called a Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster.
Similar to the gin and tonic notion:
It is a curious fact, and one to which no-one knows quite how much importance to attach, that something like 85 percent of all known worlds in the Galaxy, be they primitive or highly advanced, have invented a drink called jynnan tonyx, or gee-N'N-T'N-ix, or jinond-o-nicks, or any one of a thousand variations on this phonetic theme. The drinks themselves are not the same, and vary between the Sivolvian 'chinanto/mnigs' which is ordinary water served just above room temperature, and the Gagrakackan 'tzjin-anthony-ks' which kills cows at a hundred paces; and in fact the only one common factor between all of them, beyond the fact that their names sound the same, is that they were all invented and named before the worlds concerned made contact with any other worlds.
This is from Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy, isn't it?
The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, but essentially yeah.
Didn't expect to get blessed with a Grosse Pointe Blank Quote for breakfast but here we are!
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You’ve become what you were sworn to destroy 😭
Worked for Elon Musk! His endless K-hole is working out just gangbusters.
K is trash compared to shrooms
Educate yourself. Ketamine is a party drug and has nothing in common with psilocybin.
Ketamine first and foremost is a dissociative anesthetic. Ketamine is also having psychedelic effects. It has been used for "spiritual" purposes long before it became common as a "party drug". Also every drug is a "party drug". Finally Ketamine is in research for treating depression, anxiety, addiction and other issues, with some results looking quite promising.
Shrooms? I love em! Lemon Tek, let's go!
But for Mental health it's pseudo healing. Maybe it helps for a few weeks, but issues are issues, shrooms help to isolate them but not to solve them. Get therapy.
Edit: I mean it. Issues have roots, some multiples. Shrooms help to isolate/understand these connections but it's not a magic "helping" potion. Shrooms can e.g. help with depression but if you don't change the circumstances, the issues shift/come back. (E.g. developing psychosomatic pain instead of depression). So, yes shrooms help... but only temporary if you don't pull the right learnings from it (which could be done on your own... but is srsly much much harder)
Depending on the person's psyche and the severity of their trauma, one trip can cure a person forever as someone was saying in this thread. That's not common though.
I like that people do therapy. I've tried it myself but it wasn't for me. Hard ass Psilocybin trips help me though. I don't know if the DMT during helps but it sure is fun.
I disagree with you, lightly. I think many people can work out their issues with mushrooms, or perhaps mushroom therapy, although from what I've seen what they call a therapeutic dose is a joke.
Oh shit forgot to say- lemon-tek is the only way! Lemon tek a quarter, keep a DMT vape in your pocket if you can remember what a pocket is, and just go wild. My favorite.
my first (lsd) trip taught me how to establish boundaries and tell people "no" overnight, i didn't even intend for that to happen. i was on the edge of ego death, saw myself looking at myself inside of my mind, my other self said "love yourself more" and that was it???
it'd have taken months if not years of therapy to achieve, and a funny little paper i got from my friend for free fixed it with a single sentence, on top of all the fun i had that night
Goes hand-in-hand
I can't be certain of that until I try it
Someone shroom my lazy ass up
For the love of yourself please watch recent chubbyemu story on YouTube and pls understand what you are doing before doing it.
Shrooms are very random and medicine should be treated with utmost caution and respect.