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[–] [email protected] 85 points 4 months ago (2 children)

To me "review bomb" implies giving a rating based on external or irrelevant factors. Giving a game a bad review because it doesn't run correctly on your computer is perfectly valid and helpful to other users.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It ran fine since 2017 and got blindsided by MS. Anyone blaming Ubisoft is biased af, or has information not included in this article.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, the billion dollar game developer doesn't have the resources to test preview editions of the only PC OS their game is designed for. They're just a small startup of ~20k employees. How are they supposed to allocated anyone to patching a game from their most popular franchise?

You're right, it's the consumers fault for being biased.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Brb gonna test those old 1995 games and if they don't run on Windows 11 I'll review bomb Eidos.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

If they're selling the game somewhere right now (like GOG) and it doesn't run on your computer then it's perfectly acceptable to give it a review rating of "Not Recommended"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (9 children)

They do have the resources, they also have the expectation they won't need to waste them on dumb shit MS breaks.

Ubisoft IS the consumer of MS products. But I guess your sympathies for consumers is only skin deep.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The game is an eight years old single player game. I doubt they had many people working on it anymore.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So, people should leave positive reviews for games that no longer work?

Like I get what your saying. It's not Ubisoft's fault.

But if they're not going to fix their old game, than it should be reviewed negatively so people don't spend money on a game that no longer works.

If they don't want that, than delist it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I didn't want to discredit the reviews, just give more context to the situation. I don't think that there is any AAA dev that has 8 year old games at such a high priority level that they would fix any "posthumous" issues immediately.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Sure

But when people are replying to

https://lemm.ee/comment/17210238

Saying that anyone not calling out Microsoft is biased, is a bad take. And I'm not sure what your point of more context is needed?

A broken game gets negative reviews. I'm not sure what's biased about this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It is due to an external factor - Microsoft

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Star Wars Outlaws in particular received a temporary fix for crashing issues back in November. While Microsoft and Ubisoft have been working on a fix, issues with games like Assassin's Creed Origins still remain.

If a fix exists for other games and not this one and you've been negatively affected, that's a 100% acceptable reason to give a "Not Recommend" review.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Then maybe you should revise your comment to say external factors are valid

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's not an external factor. It's the absence of a patch in the game.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I feel like you don’t know what an external factor is

The game was in a working state, an update by an external company for an external application (the OS) caused the issue

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What state is the game currently in for these users? Not working. Why would they recommend it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Then maybe you should revise your comment to say external factors are valid

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's literally not external.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Oh so they pushed the Windows update that broke it

Sorry, my mistake

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It ain't review bombing if the game's not working properly. That's just called an accurate review. Of course the gaming journalism industry has to make sure all of its headlines are anti-consumers possible though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The problem is that you have some weird conception of what "review bombing" means. You seem to be under the misconception that it has something to do with somehow illegitimate reviews.

All that it means is massive amounts of negative reviews in a short time. It's pretty self-explanatory, really.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's the sterilized, literal definition, but it's very common for "review bombing" to be framed as immature gamers throwing a temper tantrum. It's denotation vs. connotation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's never framed that way. I know because people complain about it literally every time it's used in this context.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (4 children)

It's always framed that way.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ubisoft = Bad, Steam = Good.
Upvote to the left.

Seriously gamers, don't buy Ubisoft's games and stop crying.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I don't understand. These reviews seem accurate to people who have yet to buy the game, so the score properly reflecting the current state of the game warning potential buyers to not buy it.

Reviews would be useless if they didn't change and people buying the game because reviews reflecting game is fine.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

This is the exact reason why Steam had a separate "recent reviews" statistic. A well-reviewed game with negative recent reviews is a good indicator that something broke (three exact reason should be spelled out in the reviews).

The only issue is that such reviews are not "self-cleaning" once the issue gets fixed, and not every negative reviewer will remove or correct their review manually.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It would be true if gamers wouldn't be OBSESSED with bashing Ubisoft for any fucking reason they can find.

A Ubisoft guy says something about people not owning their games, it gets taken out of context and people are basically sending death threat to their office. Steam publish an update to make it clear you never owned your games, people jerk them harder.

In the end, both are filthy capitalist business, but one has 12k employees and get shit on all the time because black samurai in a fantasy world or women not fuckable enough, the other has around 80 employees, take 30% on every games they did nothing for, and every gamers kisses their asses. This is just another reason for low life gamers to hate on ubisoft, the fact that windows broke compatibility with the game makes it even more stupid. How the fuck could they have prevent this from happening exactly? They will publish a patch within 24 hours but the bad reviews will stick.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Jesus, you're an unpleasant person.

Also, Valve isn't relevant towards this conversation. They're not the ones that made Ubisoft into a dumpster fire.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Reviews are more relevant to customers who are buying the game than people who own the game.

It's no different than people putting in a bad review because a product they got broke on them.

When it comes to digital PC games on changing hardware and OS what the game was at launch is not the same years later. Who's ever fault it is for the game being in a broken state doesn't change it is broken, so reviews being updated to reflect the change is helpful for people actually buying games.

There's been issues raised for a while. Fixes don't always happen that quickly if ever.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/windows-11-24h2-update-break-ubisoft-games/d0917345-7f2a-4972-8d5b-99d2f9be1b28

https://www.techspot.com/news/105709-windows-11-24h2-update-breaks-ubisoft-games-fix.html

https://gameranx.com/updates/id/520097/article/assassins-creed-games-still-broken-due-to-windows-11-update/

24 hour fix was mentioned by you, but review bombs happening after issues having popped up all the way back in October in the article is indicative of current owners being fed up and now resorting to public pressure for fixes while also serving as a disclaimer to potential buyers who don't keep up with gaming news.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Shit Ubisoft game gets shit reviews, news at 11

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You didn't even read the entire title, did you?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I have no clue what you’re talking about? Is AC not a Ubisoft game?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

[Due to a Windows 11 update causing issues. ]

You can blame Ubisoft all you want, but 1) it's not their fault and 2) this game isn't considered terrible in any way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

lol, isn’t their fault? Multi billion dollar company can’t bother to make their game work while thousands+ of other AAA and indie titles continue to work without a hitch?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's not their fault, because they were blindsided by the update to Windows, just like everyone else. They are working on a patch, but this takes time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That’s funny, none of the other games I play are affected, do you have any examples?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Just because you aren't affected, this doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist.

https://www.windowslatest.com/2024/12/19/microsoft-confirms-windows-11-24h2-issue-is-breaking-games-yanks-update-for-more-pcs/

Reports of people having issues with various games crashing due to this update go back to August.

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