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Judge Stephen Yekel, 74, died by suicide in his courtroom on his last day in office after losing a re-election bid.

He was found Tuesday morning at Effingham County State Courthouse, with investigators believing the incident occurred late Monday or early Tuesday.

Yekel, appointed in 2022, had recently attempted to resign but was denied by Governor Brian Kemp.

He was also facing a wrongful termination lawsuit from a former court employee.

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[–] [email protected] 220 points 2 months ago

A bunch of shit is about to come out, I reckon. Only reason why he would off himself.

[–] [email protected] 142 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Yekel was appointed to the state court in 2022. He recently attempted to resign from his position, but was denied by Georgia Governor Brian Kemp, according to WJCL.

I don't understand how that is legal. You can force someone to keep a job whether they want to or not?

[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Well, GA is employment at will so, unless there's some special law for judges I don't know about, I'm guessing the 'rejection' is more symbolic than anything. My best guess is that he was about to be fired anyway and Kemp didn't want him to get away with acting like it was on his own terms. It would be good to hear a lawyer's take on it, though.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Well, GA is employment at will so, unless there’s some special law for judges I don’t know about, I’m guessing the ‘rejection’ is more symbolic than anything.

"At-will employment" just means they're kneecapping the unions. It doesn't mean an individual's job can't be governed by an actual negotiated contract with terms different from "either party may end the agreement at any time for any reason without prior notice;" that's merely the default when no such contract exists. Actors, for example, often have actual employment contracts so they can't just abandon their portrayal of a recurring character without consequences.

I don't know if there are special employment terms for elected judges (or elected officials in general) in GA either, but I don't know that it would necessarily require a "law" (as opposed to administrative rule or even just convention) and I'm guessing I think it's more likely than you do.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

At-will has little to do with curbing union power. You are thinking of right to work laws.

At-will is, as you mentioned, the default that absent a contract either party can unilaterally terminate the employment relationship except for a reason explicitly prohibited by law, like due to being part of a protected class.

Right to work laws harm unions because they allow individuals in a workplace under union contract to opt out of paying union dues while still benefitting from the agreement, draining the union of resources so it cannot be effective in the future.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Probably wanted him to win reelection so he could place a temp replacement, instead of losing the seat. I have no idea if that's a thing for judge seats in Georgia...

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

Probably something about resigning in grace rather than being fired in grief.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

isnt forcing someone to go into work against their wishes just false imprisonment?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what law would cover it, but I can't believe this is legal.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Given the nature of the job it's probably something to do with a duty to finish pending work or such. Much like can't just quit the military until your contract is up or you face court marshel.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 86 points 2 months ago (11 children)

re-election bid

En elected judge? That sounds like the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. Could someone explain to a European how that works? Do they at least have to qualify for election in some ways?

[–] [email protected] 98 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children)

Lot of derision but not much explanation as to how this strange system came to be.

Many state constitutions in the US were written in the 18th and 19th centuries. The key differences relevant here to this discussion were that during these times, suffrage was far more restricted, and communities were far more sparsely populated and isolated.

Prior to the 20th century, suffrage was not universal and generally was restricted to wealthy white men of status, who, as a consequence of their socioeconomic standing, also tended to be more educated and thus better suited to rationally judge the qualifications of office-seekers. A consequence of universal suffrage is that the education level of the average voter goes down.

Most Europeans severely underestimate how few people lived in these states and across how much land they occupied. The US typically granted statehood to its territories when they reached the mid to high five digits in population. The majority of Western states are the same size as the largest European countries. Let me use California as an illustrative example. Its statehood was granted in 1850 and it had a population of 92,597. So just imagine essentially a group of people fewer in number than a single small European city trying to run a piece of territory the size of Germany (California is actually bigger than Germany by 69,000 km²).

What happens in such a scenario is that communities become very isolated and insular. They get used to running their own affairs since basically any model of centralised government is going to fail when your population density is 0.2 people per km².

Understand that aside from tightly-knit indigenous communities (who were branded as "savages" and categorically excluded from participation in so-called "civilised" society) this was literally unsettled land. Empty plains, dry desert, and wild forest for hundreds of kilometres around where there was no law but those of physics.

In these isolated communities, you still need to fill the required leadership roles, but you run into the issue where nobody is particularly qualified to these offices and further still, the townsfolk don't really want to just elect a single person to fill all the other offices by appointments. Rather the best way to fill these offices is by election where the community can get together and decide collectively who is best qualified for office. So how it would go is that everyone entitled to suffrage would, every other year, ride their horses into the county seat, which could take hours, and then listen to the candidates' campaign pitches, vote for whomever they thought was the most qualified for sheriff and county judge, and then go home and never hear from those people again for months on end.

As a result, when these territories were granted statehood, most delegates to the conventions that wrote the state constitutions saw no reason to deviate from these established methods for picking local office-holders.

Edit: I realise this also doesn't explain why these constitutions haven't been amended to allow for appointed judges in the modern US. The reason is because politics in the US is extremely cutthroat and anyone who proposes such an amendment is taking a rather unnecessary risk with their political career because their political opponents can then attack them for taking away power from the voters in favour of "unelected bureaucrats".

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

People always underestimate how much the scale of the United States warped governance if we look at it through European lenses

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 months ago (3 children)

No. Bible belt USA coroners and medical examiners don't even have to have medical degrees, and judges don't need a juris doctor degree.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (5 children)

medical examiners don’t even have to have medical degrees

Vote for me. Do I look like a necrophiliac?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Well, now that you mention it...

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

People are giving you somewhat bad information. This may differ in other states, but they do need to have practiced law in Georgia for seven years prior to being allowed to run for election.

Its a dumb system but not completely unregulated.

Other states have various methods of selecting judges. In Colorado, the governor appoints them for their first term, then they are subjected to a retention vote every few years. They rarely lose their retention votes.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It is dumb. It is to to states how they do it, but most of the times the state judges are selected via election. Which is tough as a voter it is very hard to learn about a judge especially if the judges supposed to be non partisan (believe in our not, but in some states they declare the part they are in).

IMO the governor should select judges and perhaps give option during election to allow people to recall them if they are grossly biased or something (at that point judge would be well known).

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Appointed judges aren't always all that great.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"honey, today's your last day of work. Then it's just you and me 24hrs a day."

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago

"I hate my wife" cue laughtrack

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (17 children)

Or maybe we can not make facetious comments about a suicide that literally just happened?

Editing this into all of my posts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_crisis_lines

[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Got it, nobody gets to think or discuss until you feel safe.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

I literally said the word "maybe" and ended it with a question mark and you've decided I want to silence people. Amazing.

All I was hoping for was people being a little tactful about a goddamn suicide, but I guess suggesting that doing that would be nicer is NAZI CENSORSHIP.

Editing this into all of my posts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_crisis_lines

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe take a look at those big feels of yours.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

What the fuck does that even mean?

Editing this into all of my posts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_crisis_lines

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'll answer your question then: No.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Well I'm sorry that you and others lack the small amount of empathy it takes to have the tact to not make fun of someone who literally just killed themselves.

But silly me, suicide his hilarious, do continue. I'm sure whatever he did was totally deserving of death and his wife and four kids will see the funny side. And if they don't, fuck their feelings.

Editing this into all of my posts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_crisis_lines

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sorry everyone, it’s this dude’s first day on the internet. He’ll get it eventually.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, being on the internet totally excuses a lack of empathy and a tacit approval of suicide during a time of year where depression is at a height. Because there's nothing someone on the edge needs more right now than to see a bunch of people mocking someone who just died, confirming to them how worthless human life is and how no one will miss them either. Ask me how I know this, go ahead.

Editing this into all of my posts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_crisis_lines

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, I remember back in the day, when the internet was free. It was lawless, but there were so many great things to see too.

Then a bunch of pussies noticed all the fun we were having, and they gave away all that freedom to the governments and corpos, asking them to build in blocking features and filtering horseshit, so that they didn’t accidentally see an image or idea that they didn’t already have predefined in their head.

Just completely destroyed something that was once so beautifully free, just because they were too much an imbecile and coward to face different ideas.

Sad really.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Then accept that it’s as dickish as these comments.

This thread is fucked up. I hope nobody here has to think back to it one day and wonder if their loved one deserved to be made fun of even if they did wrong in life.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

I'm just going to start replying with this link rather than explain why I know from personal experience that this encourages others to kill themselves:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_crisis_lines

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Looks like his wife blew his wad at a daycare business that bankrupted them and she divorced quick.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago

blew his wad at a daycare business

God in Three Persons, phrasing.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I have a buddy who lives in Effingham county, he said

"Apparently he was trying to resign to undo the recent election where he lost to the first person to run against him in a while".

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The dude was 74, and pissed he lost an election to the first incumbent?

So he shoots himself?

That... Well. Ok I have no fucking idea how it clears much up, but he didn't like that outcome by the look of it.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well guess that means he's guilty!

Of, what exactly?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

Have you seen the judicial system?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (15 children)

After reading the comments here it’s plain to see that the moral compass of lemmy is directly proportional to how the hive-mind happens to feel about the victim.

It’s pretty shameful to see so many people salivate while climbing over one another to see who can make the best joke about a man that committed suicide.

It seems that every day, you all become more and more like Reddit.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

The devil went down to Georgia and he was lookin for a judge to appeal.

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