Perhaps cars shouldn’t be allowed on bar streets. This happens a lot
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You are being downvoted because you commented without any knowledge. Bourbon street is only open to traffic during the day, and mainly for deliveries. The suspect swerved around the traffic barriers, while shooting at the police.
Source: I lived in New Orleans for years, worked in the Garden District and lived in the French Quarter for a few years.
When I say closed I mean converted to pedestrian and not accessible unless someone is standing there with a key to let the delivery truck in.
People can downvote all they want, cars don’t belong in urban centers like this.
Super blocks in Spain is what I have in mind
I have a feeling that after this, they will install those retractable giant pilons they use in places like government buildings rather than a parked patrol car. It is sad that it takes a tragedy to get the gears moving.
They're already doing that. They were upgrading them to be in time for the Superbowl.
Completely agree. I think if it's possible to drive around the barricades, then the area isn't actually closed to the degree that I want to see.
A bit of a side point. Something I wonder about a lot, as a tradesman in the US, is implementation of restricted vehicle use in city centers while maintaining materials delivery and maintenance.
Since you support removing cars from city centers, how are these logistical challenges addressed? Genuine question, btw. I don't disagree with you, but I am curious. I'm not familiar with Spanish super blocks. How do they work? How are goods, materials, and equipment delivered? I'm lazy and want answers delivered like pizza
Basically there are bollards that fold down or retract electronically.
The university I worked at had the folding kind. We just had a key that allowed us to remove the locks and fold them down for deliveries. The area was completely inaccessible to anything bigger than a motorcycle when the bollards were up.
An attacker could just cut through the locks, but that requires them to exit the vehicle and tamper with them while cops are standing right there.
Were I to design a more sophisticated system, I’d install the retracting kind and have something like what those gated communities have where any authorized business can open the bollards by answering a phone call and pressing a certain number.
This could be compromised, of course, but it raises the skill floor necessary to carry out an attack.
Gotcha, that's how it is around the university in my area too, to a degree. Not the removable bollards, but the restricted access to maintenance and delivery vehicles. There are barriers, but the infrastructure could be better.
One of the issues I run into at work is my own forgetfulness. When I'm working a high rise or warehouse, no matter how much I prepare and load up my rolling tool cart, I wind up having to go back to the van at least twice per job. I actually charge a facility surcharge when i have to work more than 100m from my van, just to account for the extra time I spend. I'm a locksmith, and there are so many specialty tools that i can't carry them all. This is especially true when I'm working a multistory residential building with no elevator. So up and down I go.
Anyway, it's a subject of interest for me. Something needs to be done, especially in city centers. It's just that most anti-car comments I see don't seem to take into consideration the logistics of materials and maintenance. Thanks for the nuanced explanation
Yeah that’s why I’d want them removable or retractable. The goal is to keep dip shits like me, or malicious actors, from bringing their car in.
If someone calls you then they need to let your van in so that you can do your job without that added hassle.
I think my ideal system would be like those gated communities. Anyone that manages a business, or lives in the area, can buzz a car in for deliveries and maintenance. Obviously that weakens security but it’d at least prevent opportunistic attacks and drunks.
How do you move goods around a large warehouse? Forklifts and hand trucks. It’s the same shit without a roof.
That seems… overly simplistic. Have you actually seen this in action or are you giving your opinion on what should be done?
I live in a car-centric area, so I don't get to see much in the way of pedestrian centered infrastructure. Even pedestrian focused shopping areas and universities have roads for materials deliveries and maintenance equipment, although passenger vehicles are prohibited. Those places are as vulnerable to a vehicle attack as any other.
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People with a right to drive into the area are either issued keys or someone with keys lets them in and out.
At least that's how those areas work in my Australian town. One or two bollards are removable or lowerable after unlocking them
For really low car usage areas you need a heavy forklift to move a one tonne plant pot
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Does that mean someone with a key let this guy’s truck in?
From what I can find, the only barricades were the police barricade and he went around it
and mainly for deliveries
Soooo 10 people died because checks notes deliveries?
It should be impossible to drive here. Regular deliveries can be done with hand truck and forklift.
americans don't travel for hundreds of meters with a hand cart or a fork lift. that's not a thing
If there were concrete barriers, he couldn't have entered. We need to permanently ban cars from our streets to protect pedestrians, like they do in Berkeley.
We had a similar attack in Germany a couple of weeks ago. Every time something like this happens people call for more security. But it's a media thing, we talk a lot about these acts of terrorism but far less about stuff that happens daily and we're used to. That's why I share this list I collected over the past years. What are we afraid of?
Deaths per day in Germany
2,800 Total
930 Cardiovascular diseases
630 Cancer
350 Smoking
200 Alcohol
55 Medical malpractice
30 Suicide
10 Traffic accidents
2 Murder, including 1 femicide
0.02 right-wing Terror
0.0004 left-wing Terror
9,300 Cows
151,000 Pigs
1,800,000 Chickens
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The FBI press statement here:
https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-statement-on-the-attack-in-new-orleans
Guess there's no Sugar Bowl tonight
...Sugar Bowel...
I know the situation isn't funny but I chuckled nonetheless.
Just watched halftime show report on it... It's been suspended for 24 hours.
Is that like some event where a bunch of OnlyFans workers go to meet Sugar Daddies?
Reading the news about this suspect, I wonder how much someone like him was coerced or bullied into doing something like this?
Nazis and white supremacists are intent on creating an ethnostate, and how fucking convenient that this guy and the guy in Germany who did the Christmas market attack just happened to do it just now.
Muslims in particular need to be aware that they may be targets of asshole covert gangs doing electronic harassment. They are not the government, report your harassment to the FBI if you’re going through anything like that.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_harassment
Edit to give context, I read some weird stories around the internet, sorry if it comes across as too “out there”. Its likely that such stories are lies or literally schizoposting.
The suspect identified as a man of 42. That's his right.
Blowback. Yet another terrorist that the US military created from the invasion of Afghanistan.