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[–] [email protected] 127 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

The laws of robotics:

  1. A robot shall never harm a human, or through inaction allow a human to come to harm.
  2. Fuck other robots though. Fuck them right up.
[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

First glance I thought that was One Must Fall: 2097, but turns out below it doesn't even get close to that epic level.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

To be fair, given its legacy now as one of the worst one-on-one fighting games in the history of the universe, Rise of the Robots probably wishes it was One Must Fall.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, that reminds me I wanted to replay that game.

[–] [email protected] 95 points 3 months ago (5 children)

As it turns out, the impact wasn't too severe. The Waymo cab, to its credit, hit the brakes immediately and avoided knocking the poor little thing over. And moments later, while the robotaxi is still in a daze, the Serve robot drives away like nothing happened.

Smash seems to be overselling it.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They had hot, angry robot sex afterward

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

For revenge or for reconciliation?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago

It appears the video may have been sped up in the part just before the impact. I would like to see the unedited clip, I bet it was way less severe than it looked.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like a good time to use the word "bump"

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

The word "slam" has been reserved for headlines of someone giving minor criticism, can't use that unfortunately.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 months ago (5 children)

There should be an open communication standard that all robots use to communicate with each other.

And it will only be used for good and nothing nefarious.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How about if we had sixteen different proprietary such protocols instead?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We’d need a seventeenth unifying protocol

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

There should be an open communication standard that all robots use to communicate with each other.

Yes!

And it will only be used for good and nothing nefarious.

Oh no

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Little robot crossed against the signal, and couldn't navigate the curb, big robot cali rolled the right turn and didn't yield to the pedestrian walk way. What a shit show. Glad it wasn't someone in a wheel chair.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So what we're saying is, this is it, folks. We've finally reached robot parity with exactly how humans would behave in the same situation.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago

Not quite.

We'd need the waymo cab to start screaming about how the robot just jumped right out in front of it, and how they should stay the hell out of the way.

Then we'll have reached parity.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

how *Americans would behave.

We really don't want Americans' autonomous vehicles here.
sincerely,
Europe

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Neither would we if we had more trains...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes, yes we do. False advertising / promises aside, autonomous vehicles will likely result in lowered accident and death rates. Until we've reached the point that we've eliminated private cars entirely, autonomous vehicles would be a step forward.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Absolutely not. All of that is false. Autonomous cars in the US have not shown to have a lower accident rate compared to human drivers. This whole idea of increasing speed limits will also greatly increase the fatality rate of pedestrians and bicyclists.

As was already mentioned in the thread, autonomous cars are trained on American drivers. American drivers are so bad that they're not allowed to drive in Europe if they're not a tourist. Here in Sweden, the traffic fatality rate rate is 20 a year per 1 million people, and dropping. The current fatality rate in the us is 129 deaths a year per 1 million people and rising. 43000 dead a year. 0.1% of the US dies off every decade to their own shitty driving. Letting AIs trained by Americans drive cars in Europe will be a bloodbath.

American roads are developing-country bad. I was in DC last month and saw a dozen people with children in the car, texting while driving. I emigrated out of that country and got a real driver's license here in Sweden. Keep American car culture out of Europe.

Every European country already has proven autonomous electric vehicles called trains, we don't need Tesla and Google trying to sell us their shitty US version.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

and didn't yield to the pedestrian walk way.

The Waymo is guilty.

The scene was clearly visible and it hit the brake much too late at that speed.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

video of it on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hazFkED40KI if you don't want to go to reddit through the linked page

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Don't really want to go to YouTube either, but thank you.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

PURITY TEST ALERT! YOUTUBE LINK DETECTED!

Jesus y'all are a bunch of lock-stepping little fascists.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago

You must be exhausted.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

Begun, the robot wars have.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

You call that a smash? Stop sensationalising, come now.

A car gently tapped a thing during a turn and came to a stop.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

The future is now!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

I hate seeing this kind of bot on bot crime

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

Where were you during the robot wars of 2025?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

We'll win the robot wars by pitting them against each other.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I see nobody talking about this, but aren't the Waymo(s) trained on data which most likely did not include these robots yet?

It seems like this is just something that'll probably happen a lot whenever something new is introduced on the roads.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Well, they should try to avoid any object in the road to be honest. Imagine a new toy comes out that a child is on. Sorry we killed that child l, we didn't train it on that new toy.

Its just an unacceptable answer to be honest.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

That is also very true.

It's not a Tesla so I'm sure they are investigating the cause.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't know about the equipment of Waymo cars, but I would be surprised if they didn't have LIDARs or some other form of distance based environment detection.

And that should be sufficient to implement basic obstacle detection. You don't need to use machine learning if you can use sensors telling you that "something is too close".

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Expect reCaptcha to ask you to identify food delivery robots soon.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

but aren't the Waymo(s) trained on data which most likely did not include these robots yet?

You can say that about nearly 100% of humans as well.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

The shadow wars

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

This new season of Robot Wars / Battle Bots is starting strong

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

That was personal, there's definitely some beef between them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

We can discuss now who had the right of way.

But can we?

Do robots suddenly have rights?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Every robot should have some kind of electronic blinker to let others know they're robots. That way, we can avoid a bunch of bumps and crashes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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