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He said it could be from posture and pinching a nerve or something. He knew a Chiro office that was life changing for him. But get this, the Chiro doesn't accept insurance and it's $75 for every 15 minutes you are with him. The first visit takes at least an hour to analyze you.

I decided to look up online what it could be. Turns out it was strain from staring at a monitor all day. I turned the backlight down and changed the color to more yellow. I also downloaded an app that controls the screen for 20 seconds every 20 minutes and forces me to be mindful and focus elsewhere. No more pain.

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[–] iknowitwheniseeit 107 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

Chiropractors are basically pseudo-scientists. They claim to be able to do all kinds of random crap by manipulating your back, like getting rid of headaches, helping you lose weight, curing addictions, and so on.

Honestly any real doctor referring you to a chiropractor should have their medical license revoked.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I already knew that and was somewhat upset that he did that. I was going to go back for a glasses/contact exam, but I'm going to cancel it now. No real eye doctor would ever refer anyone to chiropractor for anything. Maybe in passing, but a full on referral is bonkers.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Not to be pedantic or dismissive. But optometrists are not medics. They are a specialized kind of health technicians, like an X-ray operator or a CT scan operator. They are only there to measure visual acuity deviations and consult about lenses and vision correction tech. Ophthalmologists, on the other hand, are eye medics, consult with one and they will more likely have better counsel to deal with eyestrain. Some people could be both, but it's very rare. Some countries demand the former to be under supervision of the latter. On some other countries optometrists practice freely. In either case, optometrists can't provide medical advice or prescribe any form of medicine or treatment.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

The more you know ...***✨⭐

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

US based optometrists are licensed medical providers, credentialed to diagnose and treat eye disease, including prescriptions for controlled substances. They are sometimes covered by medical insurance. The major scope of practice difference is that optometrists generally may not perform invasive surgery (though there are a few states that do allow optometrists to perform LASIK or post-cataract surgery laser procedures).

There are plenty of optometrists who work in glasses/contact lens shops and that's all they do. I wouldn't trust them to treat eye medical issues, at the very least because that's not what they commonly do all day. Larger optometry groups or optometrists that work in an ophthalmology group are more suited to disease care.

Ophthalmologists do have more training (they are medical doctors first with a 3-4 year eye specialty and sometimes a 1-2 year Fellowship training for subspecialists).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Even medical professionals can fall for charlatans if the placebo effect worked on them.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There is one near me that claims they can cure seasonal allergies.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Sneezes are stored in the spine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

To be fair, headaches in particular CAN be linked to muscle strain in the back and neck. BUT a physiotherapist or medical masseuse (is that a thing in English?) will take care of that, and not a charlatan.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 4 months ago

It's worth remembering that chiropractors are not doctors, there's no science behind it and it's founder was an anti-vax, magnet-healing grifter who said he received the knowledge of chiropractics from the ghost of a dead doctor.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I would not go back to that optometrist.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My optometrist told me masks don't work, I told her she was wrong walked out and cancelled my follow up.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My general practitioner told me that he'd been keeping weather records for years and personally confirmed that climate change isn't real.

Honestly, I'm pretty sure that even his office staff had very little respect for him.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My go to response to this kind of shit is just saying "that's amazing" over and over until they run out of steam

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Chiming in to echo what has already been said.

Chiropractors are not doctors, the pain relief they provide is temporary at best, and there is a very real chance to experience injury as a result.

Source: I am not a doctor, but I've spent a good part of my career designing spinal implants and instruments.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

the pain relief they provide is temporary at best

So, opiates, then?

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like a scam. You should probably report that doctor. Wouldn't be surprised if they got kick backs for referrals.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Report to who? The Police?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

That's good. That's real good.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

The See Eye A

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The optometrist has a license to practice. You can Google the email for the board in your state.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It seemed fly-by-night and janky in there. I should report his ass.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It is particularly absurd that he'd recommend a chiropractor for eyesight. The optic nerves don't go through the spine.

Do you have a Costco nearby?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I don't think Costco near me actually has optometrists. They are opticians, but not eye doctors. I usually just get my glasses from Zenni or EyeBuyDirect, although their prices lately seem to match Costco. As far as contacts, I usually go through my old eye doctor, but I moved and need a new source.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

You really should.

In your specific case you managed to navigate the situation and develop your own therapy.

Imagine if someone had a more complex or serious issue and he referred them to a chiropractor.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Man you got to find a new eye doctor.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

I certainly did. I only went to this place once.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yikes, neck "manipulation" is dangerous, people have suffered paralysis and artery dissection. Glad you were able to sort this out on your own

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I've always thought Chiropractors are bullshit. If it was real, why wouldn't they just be doctors?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

There is a very small percentage of chiropractors that sell themselves straight - they make you feel good temporarily, which can be useful in some cases to get you started on physical therapy routines.

Even these Chiropractors are at best roughly equivalent to regular massage therapy.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'd report the optometrist to his licensing body.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

For what though? Chiropractors are licensed medical practitioners in the eyes of the board. What would I report him for?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are they? Well, that's disappointing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you in the US? I highly doubt that any state in the US DOESN'T have licenses for chiropractors.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Most states do require a license for chiropractors to practice, but I'm not aware of any that require a medical license. They usually have their own board of chiropractors

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Neither are a medical doctor qualified to treat eye problems, though. You're looking for an ophthalmologist.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Btw chiropractice is "alternative" medicine

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

Chiropracty is a scam.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

because if it worked it would just be called medicine

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Alternative facts based medicine.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

Wouldn't that be a ch-eye-ropractor? /dad

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Oof, man the number of people willing to take advantage of the trust people put in medicine is terrifying

Good on ya for smelling the bullshit before ya stepped in it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Always see if you can see a physical therapist instead of a chiropractor. It helps to see people that have medical training.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Look for a program called F.lux; Mac and Windows, unsure about Linux. But it lets you set the temperature of your screen to reduce eye strain without making adjustments to the monitor itself.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

75 dollars per 15 minutes? Jesus, it's as if you're paying for their wage instead of the company, plus this is just the check-up

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