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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 120 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Oh by fucking gods. It's loss. People are STILL posting loss. And here I was thinking this was a chemistry meme.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Personally I can't wait for this meme to be dead and forgotten

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, me too. I've never even read the webcomic. Can we please just forget about it already?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 2 months ago

Loss will live until the last soulless, inspiration destitute and desperately unfunny aging millennial dies a miserable and ugly death.

[–] nintendiator@feddit.cl 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That would be a loss for memory.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

Like that baby

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 2 months ago

Carbonated loss

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 73 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Fixed the charge on your 3-methyl-3,4,5,5,6-pentaethyl-6-butan-2-yl decane ion, aka lossane.

(It's been a while since I last did chemistry, so apologies if I messed up the nomenclature a bit)

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 30 points 2 months ago

As someone who paid enough attention in highschool chemistry to get a B, and occasionally watches Nile(red/blue) and E&I videos.... I know some of these words/symbols!

[–] sga@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

actually we start numbering by minimising the number of highest order addition, which is the isobutyl, if it gets same number regardless, then we try to minimise the sum of numbers, so i think it should be called

5-(isobutyl)-5,6,6,7,8-penta-ethyl-8-methyl-decane (I am assuming hydrogen's are present, just not represented, because that usually is the case)

I may alo be wrong here, it has been 4 years since I have been required to do nomenclature myself

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ah, my chemistry department taught me the other way around. I distinctly remember the phrase "methyl-ethyl" being thrown around a bit. Additionaly, we were taught to be more specific about isomers, hence me using butan-2-yl instead of isobutyl.

Then again, scientists often disagree strongly about things like this, so we could both be right. Also, there's a good chance this is just the A-Level specification being weird. I left my old textbook at my student flat, though, so I won't be able to check for a couple of weeks.

I could also be downright wrong myself.

As for the hydrogens, I had assumed they were not present, and that this lossane molecule is an ion with a charge of -50. This is borderline impossible to achieve in real life, of course.

[–] sga@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Now i remember we also had to specify what isobutyl (technically just 1 isobutyl exists (not counting stereoisomers), and other form would be tertbutyl). But giving highest priority and minimising sum were definitely something we were taught.

I was free enough to look it up this time - IUPAC guidelines for organic chem - https://iupac.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Organic-Brief-Guide-brochure_v1.1_June2021.pdf (or more generally https://iupac.org/what-we-do/nomenclature/brief-guides/)

Section 7 ( c ) Lowest locant(s) for principal characteristic group(s)

Although I also remember just as we completed our unit on nomenclature, all we got was "common names", now i was supposed to know of the top of my head what a cumene is (which I think is isopropyl benzene (not going to check this one)). Same thing happened with polymers, we were taught IUPAC, and then again, "industrial names"

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Any idea what a molecule like that would be useful for?

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Fuel? Hydrocarbons like that are quite combustible. It could also be incorporated into a lipid or something.

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 45 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Couldn’t resist. In a more standard form this molecule should (I believe—chemistry has been a long time ago) look like this:

Made with MolView –https://molview.org/?smiles=C%28%5BC%40%5D%28CC%29%28C%29C%28CC%29%5BC%40%5D%28CC%29%28CC%29%5BC%40%40%5D%28C%28C%29C%29%28CC%29CCCC%29C

People knowledgeable in chemistry, please correct!

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 months ago

If I ever teach chemistry to kids imma tell them to name this

[–] AllToRuleThemOne@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Change/Invert the steric centers at 3 or 6 and it should be fine.

[–] nothacking@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Assuming this has a 47 hydrogens stuck on to make it stable, I'd call it:

3-methyl-3,4,5,5,6-pentaethyl-6-buta-2-yl decane

[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

dodecane has a 12 carbon chain. The longest chain here is 10 carbons, which would be decane.

[–] nothacking@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 months ago

Good catch.

[–] Sedathems@mander.xyz 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I am a total chem nitwit, would you like to explain me how you come to this ?

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It basically comes down to finding the longest chain of carbons, then you number each of the carbons on that chain and list off things that are attached to each of them. For example, 1 carbon = methyl, 2 carbons = ethyl, etc.

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 months ago

The urge to add hydrogens to all the carbons not fully bonded is overwhelming

[–] technohacker@programming.dev 21 points 2 months ago

(1,2,2,50)-loss-quinquagintinane

[–] Sabre363@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago

My stoned ass thought this was a shifter tree diagram of a goofy little manual transmission for a sec. All gears are just 'crash', lol

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 months ago

I somehow recognized it immediately. I think this meme has rewritten my brain.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Can someone explain this to me? I don’t get it, but I want to.

[–] don@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago

…is this gain?

[–] NahMarcas@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

3-metilhexa-4,5,5,6,7,7-etil-4-butil From the head, im feel happy now

[–] burgermeister@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

OK how long until it kicks in?

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

a few years and then you die of cancer

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

*Cccccccccccccccccccccccccancer