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    [–] [email protected] 66 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    If file systems are databases, then does that mean storing a sqlite db on a HDD is database inception?

    [–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago (6 children)
    [–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    How do you post from mastodon to lemmy?

    [–] [email protected] 47 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

    @mogoh I just mentioned the group and it worked!

    The way it's supposed to be!

    I'm so happy for this omfgrotflolcopter

    @linuxmemes

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

    Oh, that's really cool. I hope there's more linkage between the twitter-like and reddit-like islands of the fediverse in the future; I'm somewhat interested in reading the former but it seems to be complicated to actually get federation with it.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

    wow, that's simple! Thx!

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    @drq @mogoh

    Do you mean just mentioning the group anywhere in the post finally works? Before, I had to mention it on first line. That's some progress.

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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

    Federation.

    Wait till you get a comment from threads. I've only had it happen once and it made me feel dirty.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

    @mogoh AFAIK, I should mention @linuxmemes handle to make the comment visible inside the original Lemmy thread.
    @drq

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    @30p87 Okay, looks like we *finally* have *actual* groups in Fedi that are compatible across the board.

    I've been waiting for this for so long, I've almost given up all hope.

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    [–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago

    git repo is blockchain

    [–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    everything is a file including a filesystem*

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    * including databases

    [–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    For example, a directory full of spreadsheets.

    Somewhere, a sysadmin is pulling his hair out

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Tbh still preferred to that asshat who rolls out an MS Access "app"

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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

    or CSV files

    [–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    and anuses are vaginas, as long as you treat them as one.

    [–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago
    [–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

    As a man of science I prefer to test every theory.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    the anus isnt self lubricating :(

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

    https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/body/24784-anus-function

    Muscles, nerves and mucous membranes in your anus

    It is though...

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

    It can be if you're lactose intolerant.

    [–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Didn't someone actually try making SQL as a filesystem and it ended up being something like 50 times slower than ZFS after they applied a ton of optimizations?

    Not as a serious project, but more like a joke to see what would actually happen.

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    [–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

    You're right! Ill just store all this data as static json files in a directory then

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    And files are streams. 🎡 Islands in the stream. 🎡

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

    🎡 That is what we awk 🎡

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    They’re more like blob storage.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

    Blob storage usually uses a FS back end so it’s more like blob storage is like a file system

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Just fucking putting data into json files in a folder is so much easier than databases. Sure, databases are faster and give you access to powerful SQL queries. But if you're just making something small and simple, you don't need those things. Save yourself the hassle and just use the filesystem.

    Or use minio/s3, which can either be the best or the worst of both worlds depending on your usecase.

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    The trouble is, filesystems don't have ACID. The first time you have a power loss during a write, your data will get corrupted.

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    [–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    It also makes you re-implement a database, but worse.

    Use a JSON file if you just need to serialize/deserialize some data. Use SQLite or a DB server if you need more. Your own code will never match the quality of SQLite.

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    [–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago
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    That's less the Unix way and more the BeOS way.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Every Homestuck fan already knows this.

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    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

    I love how pacman/libalpm database is just directories with tiny little files, and it’s faster in resolving dependencies than mostly anything else

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

    The list of reasons filesystems are not databases is a database.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    @drq Come on, that can't be your F I R S T post.
    @linuxmemes

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

    @th3rdsergeevich It is my first op-post on lemmy, that's right.

    @linuxmemes

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

    And the worst FAT32

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Honestly that's basically what CephFS is

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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

    Behold! I present to you: Database as Filesystem

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