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[–] [email protected] 54 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Ice cold -- 0 degrees.

Who wants Ice at 32 degrees? That's a ridiculous temperature to say "It's freezing out there -- it's 32 degrees!!"

If I want someone telling me it's cold, I want it to be sub-zero. Not sub-32.

You know I'm right.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'd probably like to have ice cream at 32 degrees

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Normal body temperature is 36 degrees. Ice-cream at that temperature would be a pool of liquid :)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, when it's 36 C outside, the commenter above would like to eat ice cream

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That's correct, thanks

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

But I'm not ice.

0-100 degrees F is "very cold" to "very hot" for a human. Your familiarity with base ten can take over from there.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Meh. Saying 36 = hot is just as dumb, imo

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah but there's no threshold temperature for hot. It being 105f isn't much different to being 95f.

But being sub zero is significant because water freezes which fundamentally changes your outdoors experience.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It being 105f isn't much different to being 95f.

Ooh, tell me you've never lived somewhere where both of those temperatures happen without saying exactly that

Those are very different heats

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You're fundamentally missing the point of my comment.

Also I've lived in Cyprus in 45°c heat, so yes I do understand the difference .

To make my point again. The difference between 99f and 101f is purely one of temperature. Unlike 1c and -1c where alongside the temperature change, it's also now cold enough to freeze water, so you can have ice on roads and paths, it can snow and the air will be much dryer. So there is Ana actual threshold at 0c, whereas there isn't one at 100f

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As someone who lives in an area where it frequently hits 95 to 105, there absolutely is a difference, especially when it's usually very high humidity here either way. 105 is too miserable to be outdoors unless necessary. 95 you could go to a park or the beach

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Again, you're completely missing the point of my comment.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Weird thing is 36 is hot, even though (as I said) it's normal body temperature.

Normal temperature -- comfortable outside -- is usually somewhere between 15 and 22 (adjust for personal taste, obviously).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Like someone else said, it's just about what you're used to. For me, 36 is a low number 'cause I'm from the US. I think we can all just agree to get along, yes?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Nope.

This is the hill I am going to plant my flag on and die on. (a)

(a) -- unless it's too cold, then I am going to wait for summer to plant my flag. I mean -- I am committed to this and all but I am not stupid enough to do it in winter. Plus we are about to get hit with Storm Eowyn over here and I'm buggered if I am staying outside during that -- Winds of 100 miles an hour?? My flag would blow away!!! I'm staying inside until it's done with then maybe I will plant my flag and die on this hill.

But yes -- I will plant my flag and die on this hill once we have nice weather :)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The exact temperature of 32 is not usually that important when it comes to weather because the amount of heat in the ground or water and the difference in temperature of the atmosphere impact whether or not snow or ice forms. It's not like everything freezes over when the temperature dips below 32. You need the lows for the day to go into the 20s usually.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago

Celsius is better because the portrait of Anders Celsius on his wikipedia page has the same expression I make when someone says that Fahrenheit is better https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Celsius#/media/File:Headshot_of_Anders_Celsius.jpg

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fahrenheit is better because 69 is nice and zero has far more chill.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Fun fact:
You can vape weed between 420° Kelvin and 420° Fahrenheit.
You can smoke it at 420° Celsius.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The real kicker is the temperature relative to what you're used to, tell and Australian is 15c outside and they will put on a jumper, tell a Scotsman it's 15c outside and they will strip down to their shorts and go swimming.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Time of year, too. In spring, we're so eager to get out and enjoy the warmth, but the same temperature in fall is just a sign of what is coming.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I know I'm literally taking the bait with this, but the argument about saying it's 10s in Celsius Vs it's 70s in Fahrenheit makes no sense, because you would just say the number or high/low/mid 10s and that tells you everything you need to know.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

Nobody says "it's in the 10s" in Celsius. We just say "it's between 12 and 16". We don't have to shorten every thing like in the US. We even have words with many syllables. They don't scare us.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If it’s cold out, I say it’s in the 30’s. Everyone knows that it’s cold by that. I don’t need an exact number. I saw the weather in the morning and didn’t want to get my phone out to say “oh it’s actually 34”. Fahrenheit is just more precise for this.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Your example exactly shows that Fahrenheit is not "more precise", you're literally dropping the precision. In Celsius you just don't drop the precision, you'd say "around 12", which gives just as much info

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Hahaha. No, but seriously, we gotta switch to metric. I hate owning 2 sets of tools.

Also, it's easier to think, "Oh, 10mm is slightly too small. I need 11mm." instead of "Oh, 69/420ths of a barley corn is too small. I guess I need 70/420ths?? Wait, they don't make that size? Oooh, nooooooo!!!! AAH!"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Midwest: "what are you talking about, of course 10 degrees is shorts weather! Oh... You mean Celsius?"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'd like to clarify that Celsius is used with commas.

My temperature sensors don't read rounded numbers, they read 21.7 for example. A forecast uses rounded numbers because it's a ballpark anyway.

Doesn't that make Celsius more granular than Fahrenheit on the same range?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I contest that using the word "degree" sort of suggests you've already granularized it to the point that a whole number represents the smallest division you find necessary.

Like I shouldn't have to fraction your fractions to get to something useful on a practical level.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Contest what you want, I can see what my thermometer reads right now and it says 20.7°C.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As an American engineer, I see the value in Celsius over Fahrenheit, so I've been slowly changing all of my references to temperature, like my weather app, the weather units in my car, etc. to Celsius.

Didn't take that long to get used to it as long as you associated different weather "feels" with multiples of 10.

0 °C = obviously cold and I need pants and an overcoat

10 °C = chilly on a wet rainy day, pants and maybe a sweater or jacket

20 °C = comfortable, shorts and a long sleeve if cloudy or short sleeve if sunny

30 °C = hot, definitely shorts and a T-shirt

Americans are resistant to change though, so I don't expect this to take off anytime soon.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

You left off -10 and -20. Those happened this week where I am 💀

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Shouldn't we have a measure that combines temperature with humidity to tell what to wear?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

if you make your judgment based on the 10s then you're using a bloated scale, like those mobile games where characters have 6 digit hp and you try to beat them with 4 digit damage numbers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I've wondered: do celsius thermostats normally have half-degree increments? In my house I found that a single degree F matters to people, and for celsius it's too big of a swing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Yep. Mine do anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Some even do full range tenths and not just 0.5s.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

All these linear temperature scales. Does anyone know any logarithmic temperatures scales? Asking for the kid of a friend.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I say we abandon numbers entirely for air temps in non-scientific environments.

Frigid -> freezing -> cold -> chilly -> mild -> warm -> hot -> scalding.
Everyone reading this knows exactly what those temps are regardless of numbering system.